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“I see the are one or two updates on bikes further into...”

★★★★☆

written by Desiree81 on 07/05/2018

I see the are one or two updates on bikes further into ownership, so I thought I'd chip in. I own a carb version of a 2006 Innova which is is fairly reasonable nick and 13,000 miles covered. Having ridden bigger bikes over the years, wasn't sure how I'd fare on a smaller bike. Yes, the tank range can be limiting (80 miles) but I've been keeping a litre of fuel under the seat. I have had to use it. The little fuel guage started flashing on the last bar, so thought I'd better use it as I still had 15 miles to get home. You've probably read this many times, but for a small air cooled engine with only 0.7 litre oil capacity, I have regularly changed the oil. 1,000/1,500 mile between oil changes. Very easy to do yourself. The other thing is if riding at night, the headlight is a bit weak. It's no sports bike, so speeds are not where you desperate for search light performance, but it is just adequate at best. Couple of slightly negative points but if you're on a 40/50 mph road, the little thing keeps up well with traffic and seems to sit fine at 55. I've seen some say they've had 65/70 mph, but that would only be as a last resort I'd suggest. 4 speed semi automatic at the end of the day, but I do prefer have the choice of gears although I am not sure how it would stack up against twist & go. The under seat storage I do not use for a helmet but is good for litre of fuel, fold up bag, tyre goop and cloth etc. The bike has prove extremely reliable, never let me down, cheap to run and been fun. I was talking to the guy at MOT station and he said some of the bigger stuff like a Blackbird, ZZR etc has been hanging around lately but these little things have been selling well. I loved riding the 1,000's around Europe but when you get to a point you just start using a bike infrequently like myself, this little thing has been great. Great little thing for what it is.

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Qpr26's Comment

Written on: 10/11/2019

Great review. Really refreshing to see a review giving a realistic MPG indication. I’ve seen reviews giving 100+ Miles to a tank!!?? It’s not realistic unless you’re doing 15 mph everywhere you go. I’m getting 80 miles per full tank. The older these bikes get and more mileage the lower mileage per tank you’ll get. However for £3.74p for 80 miles, it’s a complete no brainier!!!! Still a cracking bike and if you can find a decent one for under £1K certainly worth snapping it up as these hold their value well and as they are so cheap to run, reliable and fun machines they are hard to source.

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J3Npp's Comment

Written on: 10/08/2021

My wife has recently inherited a 55 plate from her dad with only 1766 mile on the clock. I've just put it through an MOT and it passed with flying colours. It was left in a barn and still has a TAX disc running out in Aug 2013. We're going to use it for a cheap little run around :-)

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“Innova is quite a surprise ”

★★★★☆

written by BraydonSimpson72 on 25/11/2017

Recently bought a 2006 carb version Innova with 12,000 miles on the clock. Been riding bigger bikes for many years and I'm ashamed to admit I initially struggled with the gear shift pattern being 4 down and 4 back. I was a right idiot and not having a clutch was strange. For new riders, I think they would pick up much quicker. I decided to give it a quick go on the motorway and was so surprised it managed 55mph comfortably and 60 didn't seem a struggle. Also seems reasonably comfortable with not a bad seat. Seen a few comments and mixed reviews on the breaks and with the disc up front and rear drum, I thought it is more than adequate. It's only 99kg and no Fireblade, so not sure what some others want?? I suppose the fuel tank size being 3.7 litres is an issue for some but for town and pottering around, 80/90 miles is fine but I keep a litre fuel bottle under the seat, just in case. Having the larger wheels makes the handling not bad at all and quite fun to be honest, even with the skinny tyres. Like a lot of previous comments, I would recommend doing frequent oil changes and is very simple, only needing 0.7 of a litre engine oil. Overall, great little bike and compared to a C90 I once owned, so much better.

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“Carb vs injection innova”

★★★★★

written by Wuyang on 15/06/2016

Honda innova / anf125 Carb version..... ......got to fine tune choke when you start up...no big deal,but can be a pain in the butt sometimes. ......better finish than the injection model..chrome plating thicker etc ......better to belt through the gears and holds on to its revs better at higher speeds and up hills, needing to down change less. ......120mpg...and that's around a very hilly area. ...... poor standard front headlight bulb....can be upgraded I believe to halogen ...... Hard to find a rear rack unless you import are buy on the bike. Injection....... .......no choke, just press the button...don't twist the throttle......and it will tick over for ever. .......better than the carb version at tootling around the country lanes in higher gears going slowly eg 20 mph in 4th. .......finish not as good, although with some care will stay good. .......has halogen 35/35w bulb....still not that brilliant ......more mpg than the carb version anything up to 180mpg has been heard of. Both super economical, but the tank range is around 80mpg. Both have tubes tyres. Both have kick and electric starters, the electric starters are a known weak point. Headlights don't run from battery and hence not that brilliant, but sufficient. I've ridden all bikes all over the years, vfrs, bmws, bandits, transalps, dominators, but I still find the little innova more fun. It also is the best natural riding position I have ever come across, which is strange for a small light bike....much more leg room for example than a Honda cg125 or transalp, which look to have all the room in the world but your legs aren't very dropped putting pressure on your hips, not this bike. Some find the seat a bit hard, many people recommend the airhawk 2 pad, although not cheap you can however transfer from bike to bike. The bike easily keeps up with traffic,it's 4 speed and will do up to 50mph in 2nd if need be or you want some fun, I've had 67 in third gear and 72/4 in 4th down hill. Just remember it's semi automatic, meaning you just change the gears, there's no clutch to worry about. Great fun, lots of character, super reliable, brilliant for thrashing about or riding slowly taking in the scenery. Just make sure you keep an eye on the oil and change it every 1000 miles, it's dead easy to do and takes less than a litre, use decent oil. As already has been said some drivers treat you as if you shouldn't be on the road, especially if like me you hold your position, as you should.....some I let pass when I get chance the others don't deserve it.....putting my life in danger. Anyway I highly recommend, will last a life time if looked after, got to be one of the cheapest bikes out there to run.

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“Need a Maintenance Manual”

★★★★★

written by LexieShepherd73 on 20/03/2016

It's a great bike .... but does anyone know where an owner can get a copy of the ANF125 maintenance manual??

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Laverdabru1116's Comment

Written on: 29/04/2016

Haynes do one - can be bought from Halford for around £20, or online circa £15 new. It covers both the carb & FI models.

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“honda innova anf-125”

★★★★★

written by jon13120 on 24/12/2015

the best bike i have ever owned. my bike is a 2005 innova 125 carb and it is now on 69000 miles it was previously used for pizza delivery so it is not showroom condition but it always starts no mater what the weather also it will happily sit at 60mph and accelerates quickly enough for a 125. The bike is very easy to mantain i change the oil and chain myself with basic tools. the biggest problems with it are the dim headlight that is connected directly to the generator so when the bike slows down the light gets dimmer also the drum brake does not have great power and the shoes wear out rather quickly. plus the fuel tank only holds £3 petrol and although it is economical it only takes you about 80 miles and thats driving carefully. the handling of the bike is second to none and will take corners at higher speed than alot of big bikes simply because of its low weight I would recommend this bike to anybody and is especially good for a first bike

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“Fantastic Bike But...”

★★★★☆

written by Damaris429 on 19/08/2015

I can't give this bike five stars for the following reasons: 1. The small petrol tank is a pain. 80 miles before I got the flashing warning. Then, down to the petrol station again. I was there so often the staff knew me by name lol. 2. The amount of hassle it takes to change a headlight bulb (but that's typical of all plastic 'scooters'). 3. Other road user treat you like you're the lowest form of transport on the road. Criticism number three has nothing to do with the bike as such, but was ultimately the reason I traded it in for a more modern-looking 125. On British roads there is absolutely zero consideration from other road users simply because this bike is styled almost for a pensioner. Each time I rode it I was bullied, tail-gated and once almost randomly dragged off it for no reason by some idiot teens who attacked randomly. I'm not a learner rider so I can't blame an "L" plate. A Suzuki Bandit rider wouldn't get that kind of treatment on the road. The plus side to the ANF Innova 125i: 1. Astonishing fuel economy. I got 80+ miles for around £3.00 of fuel. At the current rate of 113.9p per litre, that's well over 130mpg. The best I had was 149mpg. You can't argue with that. I worked out that's actually cheaper than riding a bicycle. After ten miles on my bicycle I need to buy a Mars bar to keep myself going. 10 miles on the Innova is cheaper than that Mars Bar. 2. The Innova started first time, every time on the button. There is no problem with reliability in any weather. After a nuclear war I reckon the only things living will be cockroaches and ANF Innovas. 3. The enclosed chain. All bikes should have one as standard. They keep your chain in lovely condition. Parliament should pass legislation on this :) If you're not bothered about road bullies, and you're prepared to fight in the street every second time you go out, then buy one. Personally, I'd rather have a quiet life. I now ride a Suzuli EN 125. As yet, no one has bothered me on it.

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Wuyang's Comment

Written on: 15/06/2016

Can't agree more about the bellends who tailgate....it's unbelievable the amount of hassle you get riding this motorbike yet it keeps up with traffic no problem.

Without fail every time I go out on mine I'll get a bellend trying to end my life and like you I'm no learner or slow rider,,,having owned most sales of bike in my life.

Never the less this and the Honda sh300 I've owned are the best two bikes I've owned. The way your body is positioned on the innova gives you much more comfort and space than any other bike I've owned inc BMW transalps etc.

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Stevepompeysteve's Comment

Written on: 15/02/2018

Yes I agree with the bullying attitude on the road. I loved my Innova but I grew to hate riding it because of the hassle from car drivers. Even doing 45+mph in a 40, I still had them sitting right behind me wanting to overtake. It’s a shame as the bike itself is a little and lovable machine.

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“A bit different...”

★★★★☆

written by Laverdabru1116 on 18/09/2014

Apart from this, I have not ridden a bike under 900cc or 100bhp+ for many years. But 'needs must as the devil drives', to quote an old proverb. Using my ZX-9R Ninja for a 12 mile round commute was killing it. Oil was turning to Guinness in less than 1500 miles. & at £30 an oil change, & £20 for a weeks fuel, economies had to be made. Enter the Innova...the 2nd I'd seen an ad for. 2005, FSH, described as immaculate - & it was. Didn't even quibble, wanged down a £200 deposit as soon as I saw it. Ok, ANF125 impressions. Cheap to run, a fiver a week instead of £20 for the commute on the Ninja. Cheap tax/insurance is a given. Brakes/front end. The rear drum brake is very effective. The front disc looks good but feels very wooden. But an improvement on the C50/C70/C90 drum & leading link(?) forks. Takes a while to warm up, juggling w' the choke. Once done, fine. The 4 speed semi auto g/change is better than the earlier 3 speed Cub's. Whether it will last as long is another question...

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Laverdabru1116's Response to Laverdabru1116's Review

Written on: 16/05/2015

Update from laverdabru. 8 months on, still impressed. Petrol is even less than I thought, £3.60 pw.
The leccy start has given up, probably just a loose wire, but taking off the bodywork to get to it is such a pain I haven't bothered.
Wish I'd bought one years ago -£17 road fund, £120mpg. Reckon it's paid for itself already.

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“Little star”

★★★★★

written by DestinyStanton499 on 08/06/2014

I bought mine six years ago for a knock-down bargain price. It still does 70mph in almost any conditions, apart from uphill into a wind, and 75-80mph on the flat in still conditions. Happily cruises at 65-70. Maybe I just got lucky, but I love my little Innova. Costs me £9/week for 220 miles of commuting.

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“I like it but ran it without oil !!!!”

★★★★☆

written by AdelineAtkinson on 15/04/2014

Had a 2004 model and really liked it good sensible bike, however I ran it without oil at first the kick start used to spin round whilst in gear and riding I took it to the bike shop and they said they would have to look at it obviously I did not realise that the oil level was dangerously low the bike still turns over but ceases when gear engaged---good bike in all ways I`m such a fool!!! still have the bike and once realise what is wrong I am going to fix it the diagnosis is the hardest part --any helpers!!!

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“best bike ever”

★★★★★

written by vasilissavva on 25/03/2014

I have Honda inova for 3 years now is fantastick bike is very reliable and the fuel consumption is very low i recoment this bike to everyone .

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“First impressions after riding normal motorbikes....”

★★★★☆

written by bmw e30 on 30/01/2014

Ok. This is purely a review based on my test ride and after purchasing, the ride home so those of you like me who ride normal motorbikes can get an idea of what to expect. I have a Ducati Monster 600 and a Yamaha Fazer 600, the latter I am looking to sell and keep the Innova as my commuter bike to work etc. I test rode the 2003 Honda ANF 125 Innova late afternoon in a cold 4 degrees and wet rainy weather. Not ideal but I can't change the weather lol. Starting the bike on electric start or kick starter. It idles smoothly and very quietly, maybe idle a tad low but I can sort that. Having not ridden a step thru for 18yrs, I found it very 'alien' but easy to do. Wierd not seeing a clutch lever at the handlebars. Into 1st, pulling away the bike is instantly easy to ride and balance on those super skinny tires. Back off throttle a tad when changing up the gears, release the gear lever slowly and there was hardly and jerking. Down changing is more awkward. I'm not sure if your supposed to use your heel or toe of your boot to press down on the rear of the gear lever but there's definitely a knack to smooth down changes. Mine were more instantly engaging lol. Need to work on that! NOTE. There is a cycle on the gearbox if you come to a standstill you can change straight from 4th into neutral(no-one has mentioned this, it's in the Honda handbook, I thought my gearbox was broken when it did it accidentally!). This action is blocked tho if you are moving forward so it cannot happen when riding as that would be dangerous. Neat trick Honda! Rear drum brake is good, front much less so. Has had new shoes and pads so I'm taking it 'as is' but until I check it out I can't say they're all like this. Steering is precise and huge steering lock to lock so you can turn this round in a very tight circle. Anyway it can get up to 40mph very respectably, 50mph is still good but acceleration is noticeably less urgent. I changed into 4th gear at 50 and it was very slow getting up to 57mph(ran out of road, it would go more btw), counting the mph 1 by 1 kinda acceleration. Turned around and did the same again but staying in 3rd it pushes through passed 50 and nearly 60mph so see 4th as an overdrive an use the 1,2&3 gears to get up to speed as 4th can't pull much but could probably hold the speed as long as the wind wasn't too strong. I'd guess indicated 55-60mph happy cruising speed, top speed maybe 68-70mph but I don't know yet. Handling at slow speed under 20mph is fine. Above this feels nervous but again, I've come straight off riding 600's with 120 and 160 width tires so I'm guessing this is more down to me being nervous about skinny tires than their grip. And being wet and raining and flooded roads you can imagine how I felt! Indicators and horn are on the left and easy to find without looking, the headlight....apparently was improved for injection models '07-on and was a worry for me as I commute in the dark mornings but tbh I was surprised how good it was. Maybe I had low expectations but its headlight had good flood pattern spreading wide and 20-25 ft ahead, and lit roughly 6ft in front of the bike, main beam was good too. Nice even spread like the dipped but further. Up to 40mph was quite ok on unlit roads. So not something to concern people who commute in the dark. The bulb btw is apparently 12v 35/35w so low power, something that could be improved upon maybe later. Things to look out for are rusty downpipe on the exhaust and wheel rims rust, and mine has some rust on the swing arm but only surface rust. Engine looks dry underneath, no oil leaks. Mine has a Honda top box that can fit helmet and gloves and is lockable and seems to be the genuine Honda one as the mount is part of the original grab rail. Very handy to have. Centre stand and side stand is good too. Easy to use. The seat feels ok. I found I was sitting near the front in order to use the gear lever more easily. Overall if your commutes are local and under 50mph this is perfectly suited. I'd be worried on buffeting along dual carriageways but it will do it. Don't expect to overtake stuff tho, it isn't nippy enough at speed to have the get up and go. This is purely speculation as I've not done it yet. There is a nice feeling about this Innova, a care-free feel as its cheap, reliable, easy to ride and light weight(99kg dry) one, something that bigger bikes never have. I will update later once I have put some miles on and had a good look around it but so far I'm pleased with it.

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Bmw E30's Response to bmw e30's Review

Written on: 30/01/2014

Quick update, nervous handling above 20mph was down to the front tire having just 9psi, pumped up to 29psi it handles much better, in the dry this evening it felt fine. A quick top speed run, sitting upright it reached 65mpg, laying in a race crouch position increased the top speed to 73mph. I think a medium height screen and lower fairing leg protection will be on my list of things I'd like to get.
Also I find the foot gear lever a bit too low at the front by about half an inch. I'm going to cut and weld it at work to sort this.

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Shug74's Response to bmw e30's Review

Written on: 10/03/2014

60 mph (65 on the clock) is about all you can expect - but good news is 120/130 mpg on carbed model and 140 mpg on efi. These are great little bikes - bullet proof, easy to maintain, cheap to run, and on decent rubber can eally be flung about. front brake on both of mine (bought a second so I will have one for years ahead) is good, so maybe worth servicing yours.

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Bmw E30's reply to Shug74's Comment

Written on: 10/03/2014

Hi. Check out #125Innova on twitter. It's my up to date feed on my Innova and any mods I've done.

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Bmw E30's Response to bmw e30's Review

Written on: 18/02/2014

Update

I've really grown to love the Innova. I'm getting 152mpg from daily commuting use and weekend use. Been 100% reliable despite finding the bike in generally below par condition when I stripped the bodywork off. Valve clearances were slightly tight on the inlet and too slack on the exhaust(should be 0.05mm +/-0.02 but was 0.03mm and 0.12 respectively). Now set both to 0.05mm. Easy to do if a little fiddly getting the feeler gauge in the top one(inlet).
I find tire grip very good despite the skinny tires. I can corner at speeds I do on my Fazer and Ducati Monster on my commutes in 30/40mph areas.
I limit myself to 55mph when cruising. It will do 60/65mph if need be but I'm riding more for economy. Cleaned the front caliper pistons(without popping them right out) and braking power was much better. Rear brake still very good.
I have 'cut and shut' the gear lever so its about 15mm higher at the front as wearing motorbike boots its a bit difficult to tilt my foot downwards far enough to shift up through the 'box as the boots are stiff. I wear all the same protective gear as I do when I ride my bigger bikes, and I find the hip protectors in my over trousers don't like to be contorted like they are when I sit on the Innova as your legs are much more bent up at the hips than when riding normal motorbikes.
Mirrors are better than a lot of bikes, a little elbow(30%?) but they are clear and do not vibrate or blur at any speed and give good visibility behind.
The storage space under the seat I use to carry 2 packs of tools, tire levers, a small bicycle pump, puncture repair inner tube patches, electrical tape, cable ties etc. i can also fit a 1.8m Oxford chain in there too for when i go into town and need to lock the bike up. In my Honda topbox that came fitted to the bike I keep my warmer gloves in and a helmet bag and cleaning cloth. I can fit my Shark medium size helmet in the top box when I go out.
The headlight on the carb models comes into criticism in reviews, and I agree it isn't great but its not bad. Ok up to 40mph on your own, it has an old design tungsten bulbous shape bulb as standard, 35/35w, I hear you can fit an HS1 35/35w halogen bulb to improve it but I haven't yet. I'm trying not to spend too much money on what is a cheap bike, so far I'm up to about £90 on top of the purchase price and that's about it for me. I've spent a lot of hours getting it up to a good standard and full serviced, so now i am just gonna enjoy riding it.
So far I'm up to nearly 200miles in total and I'm very happy. This is my
first small bike since riding normal bigger bikes and I'm loving it.

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“Brilliant!”

★★★★★

written by guildbass on 18/12/2013

The Honda Innova 125i is part of the Honda Wave family of underbone (step-through) type motorcycles and was designed by Honda of Thailand to better meet the needs of a 21st century population with access to fast, well surfaced roads. Previous models (the famous Honda Supercub series) were designed for less well developed countries so had light off-road capability, but were not designed to run at modern traffic speeds. The Wave series all feature a new design of long stroke engine which can propel the bike at it's top speed without revving too high and cools itself properly while being ridden so. the innova 125i has a 125cc fuel injected single cylinder engine and like the rest of the Wave range the engine is mated to a four speed gearbox with a semi-automatic clutch making it a four speed 'twist and go'. Suspension is significantly more plush and the UK/Euro specification Innova has the optional and powerful disc front brake. The lighting has similarly been upgraded and the fuel injection model has even better lights than the previous carburettor Innova enabling it to be ridden at night at full speeds on totally unlit roads I bought my 2010 Honda Innova ANF 125i 'used' with 6,000 'lady owner' miles on it. Apart from some paint work marks where panniers had been fitted and removed, it was pretty clean. The bike had a small rear rack fitted when I got it. The Innova has chromed steel spoked wheels very similar if not identical to its forerunner, the old Honda C90, and as they are not the most rust resistant items in the world, I cleaned them and wiped them with ACF50 as the bike lives outside and is used daily. I also went over other potential spots like the screws holding the front panel on, etc. I fitted a Puig screen and a small but useful top-box to the rack. Although infinitely better than the older C90, the rear suspension units were not really good enough for the combined weight of my son and I plus luggage so I fitted some units from a Kawasaki W800. They look the same but are significantly beefier. I also found the standard 420 chain was requiring a fair amount of adjustment with these loads so I imported a much heavier duty 428 chain and sprocket kit from Greece which has not needed any adjustment since fitting over 2000 miles ago. I run the bike on Mobil 1 0w-40 Motorsport synthetic as it gets up to working viscosities faster than ordinary oils and so minimises cold start engine wear....The little engines in these sorts of bikes work MUCH harder than even the engines in big supercars! The oil capacity is small, to enable the oil to warm up faster extending engine life so oil changes are every thousand miles. You get around 6 oil changes from a four litre oil container. There are no oil filters to change although there is an internal centrifugal filter and a mesh strainer but these are unlikely to need attention for many tens of thousands of miles if good oils are used. The air filter is a large flat paper type held in a plastic frame and sits in a sealed air box at the front of the engine just behind the front mudguard. the filter is reasonably easily accessed via 5 screws. Mine was changed after 10,000 miles but the old one was still fine as it turned out! I run around 50 PSI in the rear tyre and about 40 in the front. these little bikes run easier and use less fuel if the tyres are nice and hard...just like bicycles do! I picked up a nail in the rear tyre which destroyed both tyre and tube so I currently have an old Dunlop block tread type on the rear. It has cut the bike's speed somewhat compared to the smooth modern tread tyre originally fitted. Tyre wear is low, the front tyre has done over 10,000 miles and is still fine, the rear is about 1/3 worn after 5000 miles. Typical journeys for me are a 25 to 80 mile round trips down fast 'B' roads including some motorway. Top speed, on the flat, is an indicated 66 mph, which is a GPS confirmed true 60. Fuel economy has been as good as 170 mpg pottering about at 40-45 mph. Starting is instantaneous on the button and is so reliable I removed the kickstarter lever as it gets in the way of one's foot when riding. If the battery does go flat the fuel injection will run without a charged battery and the bike starts instantly from a gentle push. Handling is pretty good. It is stable up to its top speed and copes well with road imperfections. The telescopic front fork is an improvement over the older Cub's trailing link system which could jar unpleasantly if caught out by a pothole. The forks are stiff enough to retain a lot of the 'solid' feeling of the older bike even so. Comfort is good. Although I've heard complaints about the saddles on the Innova, particularly the older carb models, It is fine for me and my pillions...I sit well forward and quite upright and on journeys of 100 miles it has been no less comfortable than any other machine. Although lacking the retro charm of the older Cub, the tubular frame inside the plastic body promises to be less likely to suffer the catastrophic rot that has sent so many of the previous models to the scrap yard and in purely practical terms, the suspension, lighting and smooth and softly tuned long stroke engine make the Innova a remarkably economical and superbly practical two wheeled transport solution. I expect to keep mine for many years.

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Bmw E30's Response to guildbass's Review

Written on: 24/01/2014

Brilliant in depth review. Nice to read little things like the headlight improved on later models. Something many people fail to mention is the headlight.

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Bmw E30's reply to Bmw E30's Comment

Written on: 30/01/2014

So i bought myself one yesterday! 2003 model with 23k on the clock and perfect running smooth, quiet engine. Initial test ride was interesting, raining hard, bike gets up to 40 easily, 50 ok but from then on up to 60 less so. Id guess your right on top speed being 65-ish. Very good rear brake, front weedy. I may tweak the gear pedal position raise it slightly up at the front, overall for £600 a brilliant commuter bike.

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Guildbass's reply to Bmw E30's Comment

Written on: 31/08/2014

Because the carb bike relies on it's air filters to get the mixture correct, it is possible it may not quite get to the speeds the 'self correcting' fuel injection bike can.

I also moved my gear pedal up at the front one notch as my heel was touching the rear part and making the clutch slip!

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Laverdabru1116's Response to guildbass's Review

Written on: 15/12/2021

Good review, where do you get the 428 conversion from? My carb 2005 Innova now has 30k on the clock & despite caring for them, chains don't last as long as I'd like.

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Guildbass's reply to Laverdabru1116's Comment

Written on: 15/12/2021

Try lucky_13_racing_ltd on ebay. They have the 428sprockets now

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Guildbass's Response to guildbass's Review

Written on: 31/08/2014

Sadly my Innova was stolen on New years Day, 2014 so a month passed before I replaced it with...Another 2010 injected Innova!. The 'new' one has the Honda (Givi) screen, carefully modified to prevent the cracking that caused them all to be recalled, and a Honda (Givi) top box.
Again, it has a 428 chain and sprockets kit fitted, but this time, a top-of-the-range 'X' ring DiD chain sits on the sprockets.
Oil used is Amsoil 0w-40 which is a genuine nbase 4 synthetic.
Rear suspension swapped for CBR 125 units which are, if truth be told, a tad hard, so I've just covered the originals with gaitors and they'll be going back on. With 21,000 miles on it, the Innova will often see 70 indicated which is around 64 mph true

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Theaudaxkid's Response to guildbass's Review

Written on: 31/08/2014

A really informative review - thank you. I have commuted 10 miles a day for the last year on a carbed Innova. My MPG is 128 from my largely urban route. Another advantage of such a light bike is the ability to wheel it when this offers an advantage in traffic (if lights have just turned red, I wheel it and re-join the traffic - [left hand turn]). I paid £1000 for my bike a year ago with 1,400 miles on it. It has now done 3,000 miles. It has virtually paid for itself already. Insurance (through Swinton, and after their "cash back") was £40 for the year. This is because I am old and have a lot of NCB. Tax is £17. MOT £30. Parking is a doddle and free. I really cannot understand why the roads aren't full of Innovas!

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“Rust bucket”

★☆☆☆☆

written by on 30/08/2013

I bought my innova in January 2009,brand new from a dealer,as I Was starting the Knowledge of London (black taxi licence). After 6 months I thought my clutch had gone so took it back to the dealer and was told that something had gone in the engine and had to be repaired under the warranty.6 months later the exhaust rusted and fell off which I managed to replace myself.. Another 6 months later my left rear indicator rusted and fell off shortly followed by the right one.. A few weeks after that my topbox rusted and fell off,recently my left mirror rusted and fell off breaking my board,so at the moment i'm unable to do any knowledge and during a service was told that the front sprocket was welded on to the spindle and will need a lot of money to repair.So 4 years and 30 thousand miles later I'm left with a wreck of a bike which I can't afford to repair and can't sell so I won't be recommending this bike to anyone.

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Kingdiamond's Comment

Written on: 16/10/2013

Mine only did 4000 miles,and the clutch is sometimes slipping in 3rd and 4th gear.I wonder what this is??What was that they had to repair on your one??

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Guildbass's Comment

Written on: 06/12/2013

It's a user adjustable service point. You find the outer locking bolt on the right side of the engine, loosen it, then turn the inner screw bolt fully clockwise, then fully anti-clockwise, then 1/8 turn back clockwise. While holding the centre screw nut steady, re-tighten the outer locking bolt and your clutch is now adjusted.

The supplied user manual tells you how to do it ...

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“easy to ride if you dont mind the 4 gear step thru”

★★★☆☆

written by c90cg125 on 16/08/2013

I used mine regularly & is reliable just change the engine oil every 1000miles & do the chain adjustments when needed or will clatter inside the chain guard. Plenty for sale but be aware of ex pizza or delivery bikes as they are thrashed around & short on servicing. Parts are plentyful. Make sure the plastics on the body work are tight or will rattle. Capable of high milages but must be maintained properly. When buying second hand check it properly all over & if you aint sure walk away as some are ex delivery & tarted up. Good bike.

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Kingdiamond's Response to c90cg125's Review

Written on: 16/10/2013

I'm just curious,when changing gears i hear a quite loud click,some say there should be slight click,but not loud one and i'm doing something wrong??Could this damage gearbox??

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“honda supra/innova/wave 100/125”

★★★★★

written by bread-man on 04/05/2013

By far for me this is one of the most reliable and fun bike to ride on,I have one since highschool and it was with me all throughout college until now,all my friends had one so after riding round for a day I got used to it immediately, I liked it despite it's small engine,but honda should have just made a twin cam(DOHC) engine than of the single cam (sohc) for more power, but by far when it comes to braking and accelerating it's a joy, it is just so swift easy to use,after getting used to the transmission you'll find it easy in traffic where you can start from 2nd or 3rd gear (depends) all my complaints would be the thin tubed tires,which i had changed after a month to tubeless tires, i also had changed from spokes to cast alloy ones (which are heavier, a bit and wider but more stable) with electrical stuff, I have not encountered any problems,with the engine? I only change the oil every month or two, same goes with the air filter and they run forever. regarding the whole bike I don't like so much the minimal access to the spark plug and air filter.that's right changing the oil, sprockets spark plug and air filter is done by myself since they are simple bikes. oh yeah my bike since 2006, is still alive and ready for any adventure all mint and good (i have a basket attachment for city driving and a travel box(whatever they call it) for long distance travels, sometimes I bring a little canister of gasoline since the tank is rather small) the spoke wheels i have bought rough terrain tires for it and fit them on the bike in a minute or two for a little country driving( my relatives live in a farm) it's a good bike/cub whatever they call it or say against it it's a GOOD bike i tell you all.

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“Mileage - can they last?”

★★★★★

written by on 31/12/2012

I'm in Thailand and have a Honda 125i Wave - known as the Innova in the UK. The postmen here use the 110i versions. We also have an earlier model 100 cc Wave. These things last forever if you look after them. Our 100cc carby model has 50,000 kms in it and no problems. Our 125i model has about 25,000kms and no problems. Our postman has just got a new 110i issued to him after clocking 80,000 kms on his previous one (50,000 miles in the old money), with no problems and regular maintenance and oil changes. From the 125i, I'm getting 150 mpg, but I only ride fairly slowly. Even if I push it a bit, it still returns 120 mpg+. I've had loads of different bikes all the way up to 1200cc, and this is the best run around you can get. Keep you good larger bike in the garage in bad weather and use this. In fact, I use mine for everything - shopping, nipping to the bank - anything. Wonderful.

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“TWIST&GO”

★★★★★

written by on 26/08/2012

I bought it last year i've had bigger bikes in the past,the reason I got it was simple..££££ cheap to run,always starts never asks for much at all.only thing id like it to have is a bigger fuel tank.

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“Perfection in motorcycling - almost!”

★★★★★

written by MalcolmF on 23/06/2012

On the recommendation of my older brother, who has had more bikes than hot dinners and has a 2011 one, I bought a 2006 Innova as a runaround alternative to my `88 BMW R80 RT which was becoming too heavy for me off saddle. At £950, half the then new price, it seemed a bargain and looked great in red with 32L back box and Honda screen. I have loved owning and riding this machine although the rocking LH gear change took some getting used too. In fact, I once slammed it down into 2nd when at top of the rev range intending to go from 3rd to 4th - very scary but no damage done! I have used it mostly for business commuting use (30 mile round trip average) as well as for fun rides, to save fuel costs, car parking problems/costs and high blood pressure sat in traffic jams. I did feel a little vulnerable on motorways but did ok, mostly tailing HVG's. Economy-wise, the best I could get was 144 mpg on a bike I have screwed 70 mph out of (just) when slightly downhill with tailwind. However, with the somewhat skinny tires, I feel 60 max is more comfortable. Ultra reliable, adequate performance (you can always use more!), cheap to run and fun to ride, it takes some beating. After 9800 miles, in the past 15 months I have just fitted a new (copy) exhaust, back tyre and front (copy) pads - not bad. Parts are relatively cheap. Keep a careful watch on engine oil levels - I nearly let mine run out but got away with it. Like others, I have had to dismantle the footpeg/stand/back brake lever assembly to free things off and put up with some headlight/panel rattle - minor issues I think. Good appearance has been maintained by always thoroughly drying it off if wet before putting it away - well worth the trouble. I had intended to treat myself to a new one in a year or two but recently found out that their import was being stopped to make way for the 110cc Wave model. I then decided to buy one of the last few available (I was told) in silver from Padgetts in Batley for £2100. We agreed a new Honda 32L back box included to bring it up to the £2170 RRP. I was lucky to get a rare (tall) Innova screen new off ebay. I am even more pleased with this last version which I feel has been developed to its ultimate in terms of fuel injection, suspension, headlight, etc. With only 400 miles clocked up and still running it in, it is too early to judge performance but, from my brother's, I know it should be a bit better with max power being higher up the rev range. Economy-wise, it is incredible. On my 2nd tankful (only 3.7 L - £4 to fill up!) I reckoned I got 150-160 mpg which I felt I surely must have got wrong. Last week when commuting, I managed to get 116 miles out of exactly 3L (2/3 gall) of fuel (carefully filling to tank rim each time) which works out at a fantastic 175.75 mpg! Yes, I have ridden for economy, keeping to level roads, slow throttle opening, feathering back where possible without loosing road speed but just kept up with traffic in 30/40 mph limit areas and up to 45/50 occasionally on open A roads. I think the high screen has helped a lot. My best mate is interested in my old red one at £850 (it reached a bid of £870 on ebay against a reserve of £950) which is good going for a machine owned for over 3 years. Some dealers are asking £1500/1600 for the same. All in all, with low tax/insurance, I have no hesitation in recommending this machine and I hope this has been useful to anyone considering its purchase. Have some fun!

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Malcolmfoster's Response to MalcolmF's Review

Written on: 24/06/2012

Update. Having just read another review, I realised I had forgotten one problem. When checking it over for the last Mot, I found that the front brakes were dragging slightly due to sticking caliper pistons. With pads at minimum thickness and piston therefore fully out, I hoped new pads might fix this - but no. I was quoted £227 for a replacement Honda caliper, minus pads, (10% of a complete new bike!) so decided to drain the fluid, remove the pistons and examine it. The bores and seals looked fine but the exposed ends of the pistons were dirty/slightly corroded. I carefully cleaned them up with some very fine wet&dry paper in a rotary motion, replaced them and refilled the fluid. Using the bleed nipple to eliminate air bubbles was much easier than with a car and the whole job straight forward. Luckily, there was no brake fluid leak and the brakes are now fine. I later found a pattern caliper on the internet for around £100 which is still a lot to pay. PS. Keep the fluid well away from paintwork and even the black plastic mouldings - it leaves a mess as I found out!

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Laverdabru1116's reply to Malcolmfoster's Comment

Written on: 28/04/2018

Wemoto do a complete Nissin caliper for under £40, identical to the OE item.

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Arthur.thomas's Response to MalcolmF's Review

Written on: 02/07/2013

where did you getthescreen

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Malcolmfoster's reply to Arthur.thomas's Comment

Written on: 02/07/2013

Hi.

My original s/h red Innove came with an original Honda screen fitted which they withdrew from the market some time ago due to them cracking around the two upper stay holes - even though they are rubber mounted - which mine was. To stop them worsoning, I tried an old aeronautical trick of drilling a 1.5mm hole right at the end of the cracks (this supposedely causes stresses to encircle the hole instead of continuing in a straight path) which has worked to date.

For my new bike, I managed to purchase the last Givi version in the country (I was told) to fit an Innova which, after a few weeks, also started with cracks radiating from the top mounting holes. I made the same drillings a week ago and after a 700 mile tour of the Scottish Highlands last week with my 77 year old brother on his (I'm 66) and they are no worse.

My mate is buying one for my old Innove and it looks to me less high than mine which I think is good. When raining, I have to sit bolt upright to see over it for potholes, etc, as looking through a wet visor AND screen is not good. Also the bonded-on rubber screen edging is right in my line of sight at the top (won't lower further) so I crouch to see under it at times so watch that if buying one.

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Malcolmfoster's Response to MalcolmF's Review

Written on: 01/08/2012

Hi Sayed, Sorry but my friend has bought my old bike off me on the proviso that I have first refusal if he comes to sell it. I do like the engine noise better on the earlier model - there is a slight `drumming', or `hunting' noise on the new one which I am told comes from the fuel injector pump gears. Nothing wrong with the carburetor version if you find one suitable. Thanks for the interest though.

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Guest's Response to MalcolmF's Review

Written on: 01/08/2012

hi my name is Sayed and i would to know if u still have this bike with u tell me the price of this bike that u want to sell it on and also if u would like to contact me 07466629247 this my no.

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Guest's Response to MalcolmF's Review

Written on: 17/07/2012

I like the idea of no oil filter to replace. The innova ANF has a self cleaning- 'Centrifugal' oil filter, as advised by Honda dealership themselves. My own is the efi 2011 model, i get an average of 150-160 MPG, great reliability, very easy low maintenance, quick enough to keep up with average road traffic, only downside for me is the hard seat, especially at distance, & the step through gears take a bit of getting used to... watch out when changing down into 1st too! you need to be virtually stopped for this to be smooth. Enjoy!

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“07 Innova 125i”

★★★★★

written by on 23/05/2012

Bought bike with just over 6000 on the odometer cost 950e one careful owner from new and kept inside all its life, fantastic bike parts are cheap and easy come by the haynes manual has just been released, it does 70mph easy with the air box cover seals removed some ducking is required with these in place (im 75-80kg) bike is comfy has plenty of power in all gears except 4th when gone below 30mph or so it gets to 60mph very fast in 3rd, some people said handling was scary on this bike (70mph on windy day very scary;) I noticed how my handling improved when I shifted my weight more to the foot pegs and away from the seat tires are very important I do mine with the bike cold in the morning, overall this bike is cheap reliable mines like new not even a scratch or spec of rust so they will last once minded from the elements, im very happy with this purchase and plan on upgrading to a bigger bike sometime as this is my first road bike, also Bikes roll losers stroll haha

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“Still going after 7 Scottish winters and 23000 miles”

★★★★★

written by on 12/04/2012

Title says it all really,just an update from an earlier review,in which I unjustly criticised this little bike.Owned from new,and had it for 7 years now.It was carelessly assembled by a factory worker who clearly didn't give a sh*t,causing 2 wiring shorts and breakdowns about a year after I bought it,but after getting the wiring loom properly routed it hasn't gone wrong. I thought the piston rings were wearing recently,until I replaced the air filter (I know,should have done it much sooner)and cleaned out the breather.Now pulling much better,and still delivering about 120 mpg. I put off doing the valve clearances for a long time because I didn't want to break into all the plastic covering,but it's actually very easy to do.The rear brake linkage is very prone to rusting and seizing,but again,easy to clean up and lube. You can quite easily do all your own servicing on this bike,even without much mechanical knowledge,just keep on top of the oil changes and the general condition of the chain ( also very easy to replace) Tip- if you change the oil whenever you service the chain you will get much longer life out of the engine. I'm going to keep mine for another 7 years and much more mileage.

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Written on: 12/05/2012

good one mate

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Asked by darrellazzopardi on 26th November 2014 Report this content
Just took my brand new Honda Innova 125 for its 1st service and voiced my concern as to what seems like a slipping clutch. After going for a test ride, mechanic told me that all sounded normal. I'm still not happy as I can still feel the slip especially on high gears. Is this 'normal'?

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Report this content guildbass Written on: 27/11/2014
It may be one of two things. Firstly, the Innova is a twin clutch machine. Unlike the earlier cub type bikes the Innova has a separate centrifugal clutch to allow it to pull away when in gear. Older cubs used one clutch for both this AND the shifting between gears. The Innova's centrifugal clutch can briefly activate if shifting fast into the higher gears, giving the impression of a brief slip. it is designed to do that to soften a hasty gear change. secondly (and this happened to me) the gear shift pedal can be briefly touched by your heel during a shift and that promotes a slightly longer version of the slip. I actually adjusted my clutch thinking that was the problem before I took the shift off and moved it one notch on the spline to raise the front and drop the rear...solved the issue completely!
Report this content Laverdabru1116 Written on: 28/11/2014
I can't say I've noticed this problem with my 2005 model. I'm used to geared m/bikes, over 900cc. Had a couple of moments which were caused, as guildbass said, by my heel touching the lever. You may be right not trusting the dealer - my 2005 example had a Full Service History. From a Honda dealer. The oil dip stick thread was knackered, due to it being forced in. There have been other problems. For all that, it's a great little bike for commuting - my Ninja aint been used since I bought the Innova.
Asked by annemurdoch on 31st August 2014 Report this content
Machine keeps blowing the 10amp fuse. What could be the problem?

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Report this content Shaun2 Written on: 12/11/2014
Hi, I have same problem - did you find out what caused it? Thanks
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