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“Pretty nice! You get a really clear picture with them...”
★★★★☆
written by on 22/10/2008
Pretty nice! You get a really clear picture with them and there is ample operation time. Its got quite a bulky outlook and it is fairly slow to adjust but still a great pair of night vision goggles.
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“The Yukon NVRS Titanium 2.5x50 scope heats up and is...”
☆☆☆☆☆
written by SAVAGE on 12/10/2006
The Yukon NVRS Titanium 2.5x50 scope heats up and is poorly built. Now if you think I don't know my stuff, then let's forget I own a Raptor 6x, Morovision p-14 mini, and a few others. All and all their isn't a night scope out yet that's practical price wise or easy to mount. Who wants to buy all kinds of adaptors for mounting or carry a heavy gun. Don't be fooled by specs. When shopping, a lot of the times they fail to tell you what the range of focus is, so beware.
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“I've had Yukon NVRS Titanium 2.5x50 a few weeks now...”
★★★★★
written by tangpommel on 22/09/2006
I've had Yukon NVRS Titanium 2.5x50 a few weeks now and used it a fair bit. My main quarry are rabbits and I have found it great fun cause you find your self on top of them sometimes and I've been knocking them off at 40 yrds with my Airarms 410 (read reviews). For sighting up, I use extra strong mints xxx set at 30 yrds on top of a fence post and to stop them falling over, rub the one part of the side on the post and it will level the mint for standing up. Also worth investing in is a i.r. illuminator to go on the side, and carry spare batteries.
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“I bought a Yukon 2.5X42 Tactical Night Vision Scope...”
★★★☆☆
written by hawaiiratkiller on 03/05/2005
I bought a Yukon 2.5X42 Tactical Night Vision Scope about 3 months ago. Ive been waiting to write my review after I learned more and had a chance for some real use in the field.
At first I was very impressed with the Yukon. Unfortuneately I dont think it is worth the money. I purchaed the NVRS for rat hunting so I cant get the magnification needed to place accurate head shots at the range the scope focuses well at.
Second, the resolution isnt that fantastic. So the 2.5x magnification isnt what you would expect. If you get the 2.5x50 doubler you can increase magnification to 5. That would be a good idea. Unfortunately they dont make a doubler for the 42mm yet.
Third, you cant focus on targets at close range. That is unfortunate as I have been stumbling on rats at close ranges and can barely make out their image.
All in all, its a good NVRS for hunting bigger game such as racoons, or rabbits its not ideal for rats, but it works. If I were to do it over again, I would buy the XVD (you can buy at soviet bazaar) attachement and use the optics and magnification power of your day scope.
Michael Thorpe's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 22/02/2006
hi there rvwessel
i can see your problem, you can be seen then? well try not to use that darn ir lamp, thats whats giving you away, if you can see them they can see you! as for your scope being seen put a stockin over it, rob one of the wife/ girl friend???
its a cheap way of hiding it from keen eyes and it works for me, it wont work for that darn ir lamp, like i said long ago, dont get a cheap night sight, go for a gen 2/3 that way you wont realy need an ir light at the ranges your shooting over, still thats life, as for the power of your rifle 400ft pre sec is not bad! its only a toy realy, try puting in a biger spring? or get a better rifle, sorry to burst your bubbel, but there's nothing more i can say to help i still don't wont to be smacked in the chops with a ball doing 400ft per sec, it hurts! as for the chaps not saying that they have been hit, there not playing the game, are they! so dont play with them? or do this your self? get really close to him and smack him in the back of the head with the dutt, now ask him if hes not been hit! if he sayes he's not, hit him again but harder.
have fun, be safe, mike t
ps, would you like to use my rifle? you would take him right out the game forever at 150yds with the first hit, and thats a promise too, he wont be cheating no more!
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Rvwessel's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 21/02/2006
I have been using the sight and it works great. The IR gives away your position. All is not perfect though.
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<br>Here is my problem. Other players are using flashlights and the way they are sighting me is on the reflection on my scope. The strategy I have been using is to train the scope on them and wait for a good shot, hit them, and then move up. My gun is fairly accurate but anything over 50 feet is not a sure hit and I'm sure not every shot on target has the victim calling himself out. For many of the guys it has to be a stream of shots hitting them or they don't call themselves out. To move is often to give yourself away and there is always the question who else is following your movements. You can't watch the entire field with the scope at once. I wonder if there is a protective lens that is maybe cone shaped to disperse the light? Any ideas?
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<br>Worse still, I play against one other night scope that is on a hopped up (read 600 ft per second where most sanctioned fields and my gun caps at 400 fps) plastic with metal wrapped BB (is there such a thing or is he really shooting plain metal?) Gilly suit wearing guy with a single shot bolt fed gas sniper gun who waits for you to move and then strikes. He can hit you from about 100 feet away accurately. My gun is electric full auto and makes noise so you know where I am once I shoot. Not so with his gun. Further, we always play the same game, elimination (his choice and there doesn't seem to be a way to budge the game selection, he is our boss at work after all). He will let his entire team be desimated and wait in hiding for us to advance. I suppose we could wait like him but that would be an incredibly long/boring game. Twice we blew through his team and were left with only Gilly-boy. I was hit out twice tonight with several near misses (we don't count gun hits) and never knew where he shot from. Only the body and head shots count. He mowed through our team one by one. How do you look for cover when he could be anywhere. He often shoots for my lens since it is a bright reflection in his night scope and I have two dents on the scope casing (the lip around the lens) that must be from his gun. If that hit the glass I'm sure it would crack. I have invested too much time/dollars to see it toasted by his gun. I am just not picking him up or even the reflection on his scope. He does have a wrap on his gun that might be hiding it. I wonder if he is letting the wrap just flop over his scope and still sighting through it. I have found that I can cover my scope with my hand leaving a 1/2 inch crack between two fingers and I am still able to see images through my scope with only a little drop in clarity/birghtness. Has anyone used a night scope in this situation? What was the most effective tactic you used?
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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 10/02/2006
That actually looks really good! The only thing i would ask about is additional ir illumination. Does it provide any? If not it should say and it should also provide a picture of how well it works or not. I am sure it should work ok, don't see a reason why it wouldn't.
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Ray123's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 08/02/2006
Any thoughts on this, http://www.bunnysight.com.
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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 07/02/2006
Hello,
The digital system is dead. The company that was developing it is going out of business due to development issues and some unlucky business decisions going bad. Nobody is offering a digital system. Also, the digital system was designed for hunting small game, or large game at great distances. Not good for airsoft at all.
The Yukon Gen2 NVRS is a perfect scope for your application. It will give you a wide Field Of View and the ability to see in the dark without the use of an additional IR source or "light". Therefore, you will not be able to be seen.
I strongly reccomend the Yukon!
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Rvwessel's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 06/02/2006
I'm getting the Yukon NVRS Tactical 3x50 Gen 2+ Night Vision Rifle Scope for a game of night-time airsoft and have no other rifle scope to incorporate into a night rig. Is this a good scope or should I go to a digital set-up? I wouldn't want to supplement my solution with IR lights since this would give my position away.
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Rvwessel's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 06/02/2006
Since you folks are so well versed in gun tech, perhaps you can help my situation.
(1) I just purchased (but have not received yet) a Yukon NVRS Titanium 3x50 Gen 2+ Night Vision Rifle Scope.
(2) My application is for a game of Airsoft (electric guns that shoot plastic bb’s.
(3) The only scope I will have is the arriving Yukon, so either I keep the Yukon or purchase a system from scratch.
(4) Ideally I wouldn’t use any light sorce since it would give away my position.
My question: Is the Yukon I ordered the best low cost solution or is a digital scope a better value?
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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 10/01/2006
Hi Ray,
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<br>You can go to talonownersgroup.com and then go to the forum section, listed on the left. Then go to optics in the list of topics...then go to New Videos 200MW IR Laser Illuminator Pics.. All the link and videos and pictures you can find there.
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<br>Let me know if you have any questions.
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Ray123's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 06/01/2006
Hi hawaiiratkiller.
Please give me the link to your pictures of the attachment for the monocular to the scope.
Regards
Ray
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Gamohunter's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 15/12/2005
yep i will be shooting down into a valley on a large private property infested with feral pests ,so it will be quite safe i dont take risks most of the houses are behind me away from the direction i have been shhoting ,and looks like ill be making that setup on the back of the scope that way i can take it of during the day for day shooting and have it all scoped in and put it on for night shooting,ill check this and nightvisionstore out and ill tell jim about you if i can get it from him thanks. ill post some pics of it later in the talon forum when i get it done.
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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 14/12/2005
Gamohunter,
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<br>You would need the Yukon NVMT 2x24mm lens because you will need the smaller lens and magnification to see through your scope occular lens.
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<br>You can find the monocular at those prices at thenightvisionstore. Tell Jim what you will be using them for and tell him that Will from TalonOwnersGroup sent you!
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<br>The gen1 Titanium 2.5x50 has a much brighter IR than previous models and you can see pretty well out to 60yds, but you will need the doubler and that will reduce your light. But it won't be as good as gen 2. It might be close, but not that close. Also, you will still have difficulty placing your shots as accurately as you would with the NVMT mounted to scope.
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<br>Trust me, I was putting 5 shot groups at targets in pitch black darkness within the size of a dime at 20yards.....with my pcp AirForce Condor pellet rifle with this system. I could NEVER do that with a NVRS.
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<br>Its up to you...but with a leapers 4-16x56mm scope with sidwheel parallax you can see out to 50-60 yards NO SWEAT and be able to place head shots on bunnies and foxes.
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<br>But I also agree with Gunter that shooting at those distances with a 22 at night can be dangerous. You should know what is behind the targets your shooting. But I am trusting you know this!
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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 13/12/2005
Gamohunter, the digital system our dear friend is trying to tell you about has some issues. One, it has 10x magnification as a digital system ONLY. It only has a 4x magnification feel IF you ALSO buy the special SCOPE they are trying to sell. You do not get 4x magnification if only buying the digital piece!
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<br>Also, what is also not too smart is buying something on the recommendations of someone who has never tried or seen the technology they are pushing. (sorry Gunter ;)
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<br>I have just tested the Yukon digital monocular and there are issues with digital systems. One, they are only in black and white and that makes it very difficult to spot small prey such as rats and squirrels or raccoons at a 100 yards. Two, the clarity ISNT there like it is with Yukons gen 1 monocular attached to a scope. Plain and simple....it doesn't compare! Digital systems are grainy even more so that gen 1 if viewed through a screen.
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<br>Just imagine trying to spot something on a video camera and watching it on your TV. That is what it looks like. You can see "edge to edge" crisply if you torch it with unreal amounts of light, but it only looks "defined" if it a large target. TRUST ME, you get better definition from Yukons gen 1 attached to scope!
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<br>Also, if you go gen 2 or 3 your only going to improve on things. Please check out my reviews of both the digital system and the gen 1 scope attached system in the forums section under "optics". You will find reviews under Yukon NVMT vs. NVRS and see videos of both as well as digital system.
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<br>It is only junk gen1 scopes that suffer "fuzzy edges", not the Yukon Gen 1 monoc attached to scope. Trust me, I have friends who purchased gen 3 that say my system is just as good as theirs at close range.
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<br>But if you buy Gen2 or 3 and attach to scope, you wont need additional IR light source and can see farther with higher magnifications.
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Gamohunter's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 13/12/2005
What size power Gen 1 or 2 Yukon would I have to get to fit it to my scope models etc, do you have a link where I can view these at those prices? I also had a look at the talon owners sight which was cool - I copied the pics in case I need them for reference to the mounting with PVC. Or can I get the Yukon NVRS Titanium 2.5x50 and put the 100mw IR illuminator torch on it - will that make it just as good as a gen 2 night vision rifle scope?
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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 13/12/2005
You can do two things. One: you can buy a Yukon Gen 1 NVMT ($200 US) and IR illuminator source (100mw $160 US) and attach it to your scope via home made system (PVC).
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<br>Or, you can buy a Gen 2 Yukon NMVT ($900 US) and attach it to your scope. You can also find various other Gen 2 or 3 monoculars out there and attach to scope. Any monocular with head mount bolt will allow you to mount to a day scope.
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<br>Go to the airgun forum Talon Owners Group and see my reviews of this system. You can find video comparing these devices and trying alternative IR sources.
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<br>You can use your Tasco, but I would buy a scope that has variable power (4-16x56mm) with front AO or sidewheel parallax adjustment. You can attach the monocular by using PVC to set an appropriate space to compensate for eye relief and to use to secure the monocular to day scope.
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<br>Simply get a metal bracket, drill holes in it to screw into the NVMT tri pod mount, then bolt or strap the bracket to a piece of PVC that fits over your ocular lens of day scope. I have all the pieces in pictures at the forum I mentioned.
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<br>Let me know if you have any more questions.
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Michael Thorpe's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 12/12/2005
Hi gamohunter, no I'm not saying that at all, what I'm saying is there is a digital scope soon to be released, fixed at x10 but with a view of x4 but has a digital zoom of x10 giving a total of x20, it should be as good as a gen 2+ or better and fits to your rifle just like a normal scope that can be used just like any day scope as bright light wont hurt it, I'm interested in just how this new scope works out, no other people make a digital scope but it must be the way to go.
<br>As you have people close to your shoot should you realy be shooting at night? After all you can only see for 150 yards tops, not too smart my friend? Even an air rifle can take your eyes out and at best it will still hurt a fare old bit. Oh, I've uprated my light to a night force 170 now and can see out to 800yds or more plus I saw a dear one night - it was way off past half a mile but I still could have took it out, I never tried to so it lives for another day, that's what shooting is all about.
<br>All I can say to you is if you cant use a lamp be very careful, see and be seen like.
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Gamohunter's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 11/12/2005
So are you saying that I can attach a gen 2 Yukon NVMT monocular for only 900 to the eye recticle on my ordinary rifle scope. The scope I am using is a 4x44 tasco world class plus fixed power and fixed objective and how do you attach it and thanks for the lamping idea but I have close neighbours and dont want to attract too much attention.
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Michael Thorpe's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 29/11/2005
its me again! this digital scope from soviet brzaar is a x10 to x20 mag with a field of vuew of a x4 scope, it will whip the butt off any gen type night sight on the market to date but costs around £650.00p it can be used as a day scope as bright light wont hurt it one bit not even bright sun light, unlike gen 1-2+ junk that will just burn out and then it cost a bome to get it fixed
<br>however it can still only see about 100mtrs
<br>not to good as your bullet will go 1.5 miles
<br>much further than you can see, and at a cost of £650.00p or more is it worth the dosh???me thinks not just yet! my lamp can see twice as far as the digital scope can, and at £90.00p!!! say no more than that, and it still kills bunnys at 150mtrs or foxes at 350mtrs+, well call me tight! but if it works let it be, after all why try to fix it if it will cost a bome to do it? i have tryed out a lot of night vision sights and so far im not impressed with any of them all this talk about seeing 100mtrs is hog wash. so dont get taken in by the bumf they just wont to sell you a night vishion sight and make some bucks out of you, wate till after christmas there is a new digital sight coming it could be worth a look at, but only could be! i still think you will need to go a long way up in price to beat a cheep lamp,
<br>and iv been shooting for 45 years so im an old timer who is very willing to lurn new tricks, right now im teching a yung lad all my old tricks, and hes getting realy good resaults, with a lamp! just sitting in a field sniping off the bunnys at ranges well over 130mtrs some over 165mtrs with a .22lr rifle so dont say it cant be done, iv dont it all my shooting life we sit and chat having a smoke as well and just bang away all night at bunnys till we cant carry any more home, night vishion is a fass none of the cheeper ones are any good at all past 100 mrts if your lucky that is, its more like 70mtrs tops for bunnys and only then in full moon light, not pitch black at 250mtrs
<br>trust me go out and try one for yourself before you pay out for one, you will find you stuff most of your cash back into your pocket and get a cheep red lamp in sted with a big bore day scope of x3 to x10 a good one not a cheapy with a frunt lens at least 50mm or more this will stand you in good sted in the dark and with a good lamp and a 243 rifle you will be taking out foxes at 300-450mtrs first round! or has this rifle got too much grunt for you to use?
<br>have fun be safe,
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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 28/11/2005
Night Vision devices can get complicated. For your application and range you will need to either buy an additional IR source for gen 1 or go straight to gen 2 or digital system.
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<br>Soviet bazaar has a nice digital system that attaches to your day scope. At 60 yards you can zoom in from 10x to 20x magnification. But spotting your bunnies at 10x might cause some considerable problems.
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<br>You can also buy a gen 2 Yukon NVMT monocular for only 900 and you will be able to attach that to your scope and see what ever your scope will let you see (as far as magnifications go).
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<br>I would avoid Yukon gen 1 scopes unless you want to pay an additional 300 for an IR laser. So for that price you might as well go for the yukon monocular and attach it to your scope.
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<br>Then again....there is Soviet bazaars digital system. if you also buy the scope that goes with it...you'll be very happy.
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Michael Thorpe's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 28/11/2005
Hi there gamehunter, if I was going to shoot rabbits at this close range of 50/60 mtrs, any night sight will work ok if there is a bright ir light hooked up to it, but the bigger the front lens the better, try not to go over x3 mag on gen 1 as its really not very good for letting in the light so you will get a very dark sight pitcher, if you have the cash go for a gen 2+ or for mega bucks a gen 3+ both will see for at least 200 mtrs very well, so if your only shooting bunnies at 60mtrs why not use a red light?
<br>That costs about £80, not £600 up to £2000. I shoot Bunny's with a .22lr at 150mtrs with a red lamp and most are head shots! I use a lightforse 140 lamp - it last's over 2.5 hours and that's a long night's shooting, the beam will go 200mtrs so foxing is also a go for it! With my 22.250.
<br>If I was you I would give the (red) lamp a go first, them save my cash up and get in touch with hebridean teck house uk, they have coming very soon a x10 digital night sight, that's going to be better than a gen 2+ or gen 3 - don't know the price just yet but its going to be good? So save your ammo (cash!) and wait till Christmas or just after till then use the red lamp. ok! But don't use it like a search light or the bunny's will get lamp shy, and never, never use a white light because you cant see the bunnies with a white light but they can see you ok? So use a red filter over the lamp, its a must have, ok! So good hunting, be safe, and a happy Christmas to you all. ps, please don't shoot at Santa's reindeers, Santa wouldn't like it much!
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Gamohunter's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 27/11/2005
Hi, I'm looking for a good night vision scope at a good price to shoot rabbits and foxes at about a 50-60 meter range on a 22lr, are there any good ones on ebay? I saw these two that are in my price range: the Falcon NCS-03 PRO 3x57mm and the Yukon Titanium 2.5x50mm Night Vision Rifle Scope GEN 1+ and a YUKON NVRS Titanium Weaver. Which one will work best or are they a waste of money? Should I save up for something better for this use or will they work fine.
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Michael Thorpe's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 11/11/2005
Hi yer its the 30mm tube that helped you get more light though the scope all ways use the bigest tube you can get, the glow from my lamp is very very dim and only about the size of a cigarette butt you can hardly see it but you can feel the heat from it if you look straight into the lamp from about a foot away it wont hurt your eyes at all like I said, you can't see the light very well only a very dim bulb, but boy doesn't it work well.
If you can see 100yds with a laser then you should see well over 150 with the lamp as its far more powerful than a laser, give it a go and find out, till then wait till christmas and take a look at the new digital sights that are on the way soon,
<br>good hunting
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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 10/11/2005
Ah, great news! I will be on the look out for this new digital system. Thanks for the information.
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<br>I recently switched out my scopes and replaced some batteries in my LED and Laser illuminators and have much better news to report.
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<br>With a Nikko Sterling (Gold Crown) scope 3-12x50mm (30mm tube) i could see out past 100 yards at 12x magnification with a lot of light yet to be taken advantage of. For some reason this new scope can absorb IR light better than it can daylight? The leapers aborbed better daylight (during dusk) but couldnt abosorb as much IR at far distances? Maybe it has to do with its magnification technique?
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<br>Anyway, i was getting really bright pictures out from 40-80 yards even with a cheap IR LED illuminator.
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<br>I am sure the lamp works very well for the price, but i would like to keep the size of my red glow minimized (which i why i prefer the laser)to avoid alerting rats at close distances.
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<br>This information is largely for others to read because i know youre going digital...and maybe i will as well someday...if not outright help devlop a new system.
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<br>But right now, i am achieving great results with this system.
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Michael Thorpe's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 09/11/2005
hi there the digital scope i was looking at doesn't fit a day scope! its a stand alone digital scope that can be used as a normal scope in total day light, its from up to 1 too x10 with a digital zoom that takes it to x20, and its a cracker of a scope, cost £600 only £600!!! ouch?
<br>iv got a realy cheap and very naff pnc 4.6
<br>gen 1 scope great in bright sun light? but as a night sight well give up over 20yds, so i got a air filter from cobra cost £20 cut it to fit over my light forse 140 gun lamp (5000cp) and now i can see well over 80yds and its like day light too, but im still humping the lamp with me, you can only just see the lamp its a very dim glowing red, bit like a fag butt, and it do get hot if you keep it on for over a min or two, but hey £20??? knocks the socks of a £150 lazer i tried one and was a bit disappointed with it so i put on two and it still did not help much like i said my sight is very naff? however i can still use my light as a normal red shooting lamp, so i you have used a gun light on your normal scope bolted to the scope then get an air filter and bump the lazers, this air filter will work on any gen scope and i promise you will get a very nice suprise if you try this out, and i bet you a pint you will see well past what you can shoot even with a .22 rim fire. i like the gun lights with the dimmer switches fitted to them there handy with the ir filter at very close ranges(20-35yds) but really try this out it only costs £20 and it really works very well. also by christmas there is a much better digital sight coming out so hang fire a little bit longer and get the better one its going to beat the gen 2/3s hands down, trust me on this as a little bird told me so and hes normally very right???
<br>have fun and be safe good shooting
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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 09/11/2005
Digital night vision only attaches to the front objective and STARTS at 10x mag...with zoom to 20x. If you attach it to your scope you are in serious trouble with the FOV (field of view) at 10x mag at close ranges. It may be fine for shooting over 100 yards with a .22 but for shooting 10-20yds that is too much magnification.
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<br>I know the digital system is good quality, but the Gen 1 monocular is only 139.00 US and you can make your own mounting system with PVC and a metal brace!! 300 us for a laser illuminator and 150 for an LED. That is only 439.00 or 489.00....
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<br>And this sytem you can magnify to about 10x at 100yards...any more than that and there isnt enough light. You can still magnify at 16x from 10-80yds.....with gen 1.
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<br>The digital system is great, but you have to buy a special scope that expands the FOV to that of 4x. Why bother with a scope that locks you into magnification at 10x when you will need to see at 3x to scan.
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Michael Thorpe's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 04/11/2005
hi there,
<br>dont wast your time my friend, on the market is a dijitell night scope at around £600 and it will knock the socks of any gen 2/3 sight, you can even use it in day light without a cover on it just like a normal telly sight, bright light wont hurt it, and its a x20 mag to boot, and at 100 yds, its like daylight, just like i told you lot in the spring, wait a little bit longer, there coming out soon, so just for interest, how much did you spend on that lazer the 300 mw one????? £150 more? £250???plus the gen 1 sight?? and the mounts for it all, and you only see 100 yds???? at x4??? yuck!!! hard to hit a barn door at that mag let alone a rabbit (only a head shot pal no body shots please,) that needs at least a x6 or x8, mag, i use x8 mag with a cheap lamp, at £65, with a normal scope and a .22 rim fire, and can see 250 yds no problem, thats further than i can shoot. So do your self a favour, save your cash, go dijy its much better then gen, and only £600, can't be bad! Wonder what will happen to prices of the now out of date gen junk? Most of it now wont sell, as its very clearly out classed by dijy, just like i said it would.
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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 04/11/2005
I am using the Yukon NVMT Gen 1 monocular behind a Leapers 4-16x56mm 30mm tube scope. The clarity is outstanding.
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<br>When used with a 100mw LED IR lluminator you can easily see out to 80yds at 4x magnification. You can zoom into 12x mag at 20yds and see very well as well.
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<br>When used with an IR Laser Illuminator 300mw you can see out to 100yds at 16x magnification. At 4x magnification you can see extremely bright clear targets at 10-80yds. Far more than you need for air-guns.
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<br>I can now shoot targets at 20yds at 4-12x mag and make perfect accurate shots. I can now drop them at great distances with this set up.
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<br>Trust me, the clarity of this solution is that of gen 3. I am now in the process of improving this system and there will be new items on the market based around this solution in GEN1.
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Tholzel's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 27/10/2005
Get your self down to the photo shop and ask about F stops, in short an F1.2 lens lets in twice as much light as an F 2.4 and 4 times as much as an F 4.8, your eyes are very good in low light, a gen 1 is not to hot but better than you!
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<br>And f1.2 lens is a very fast lens! It lets in four times as much light as a f2.4 lens (not twice as much), but since we see brightness logrhymically, 4 times only seems twice as bright.
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<br>However, Gen 1 NV sights are very poor quality resolution-wise. They are grainy and of low sensitivity. It is almost essential to use an IR lamp (which can be a normal floodlight with a genuine IR filter in front of it).
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Michael Thorpe's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 13/06/2005
hi its me, yet again! well your talking about a fair tool now, not the gen 1 junk that you were saying you were going to get, a gen 2+ is near as dam it as good as gen 3 and the 30mm tube is a good deal bigger than most day scopes at 25mm, so thay let in a lot more light, and as a gen 2+ is at least 4 times better than a gen 1 you should be able to see 200 yd, still your now on the right track, use plenty of ir light though, every bit helps, im still going to wate till the digital ones come out, thay will knock the shocks of a gen 5 set ups, and in full colour too? but its cheeper in black and white, but keep me informed as to how you got on
<br>just for interest, i hope your not to let down with it, its good but not that good, rember you still wont see as far as your bullet will go? and they hurt when thay hit you! even a .22 rim fire? so be safe and have fun, mike t
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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 10/06/2005
ALSO...you are confusing a IR laser ILLUMINATOR with a targeting laser. They are two very different things. A substandard laser goes for about $40-$100...while an IR Laser Illuminator goes for about $450.00....the difference in light output from an IR Illuminator and a Laser IR Illuminator are night and day.
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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 10/06/2005
Aloha Mike! Thanks for the interesting information.
The good news is tonight I will know exactly just how well (or poor) a monocular attached to a day scope will work, as my friend just recieved his XVD-04 in the mail from Soviet Bazaar.
I would encourage you to visit their site, view the NVD attachements section and click on one of the XVD and then click on video of the product being used. It is very impressive.
Also, read some articles in NightVisionForums. The information there is that the images you get from such a system needs to be seen to be beleived. I have emails from fellows using this sytem that sent images from 30yds at 12x maginification that blow the mind. Those particular pics are Gen2+.
The XVD-04 with high powered IR illuminator seem to work very well. I have heard this feedback from several users.....but like i said...i will know soon enough.
I will attach this device to my 4-16x56mm 30mm tube Scope tonight and see for myself.
But for my current rig, the YUKON NVRS 2.5X42MM i just may look into this doubler for cameras and F-stops you are talking about.
Thanks for the information, i will keep you posted.
Will
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Michael Thorpe's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 08/06/2005
hi its me again, trust me any thing that go's on the back of a standerd day scope thats less than 55mm with a 30mm bore has got to be at least gen 2/3, or if you got a ritch grany a gen 4! but thats like £4500.00p worth, a lot of dosh for just rats, mind you with a x 9 mag you could target a rat at 300yards and then pick off its wiskers one at a time, (not with an air rifle)
<br>you would be just wasting your money getting a cheeper trumped up gen 1 scope bolted to a day scope, get your self down to the photo shop and ask about F stops, in short an F1.2 lens lets in twice as much light as an F 2.4 and 4 times as much as an F 4.8, your eyes are very good in low light, a gen 1 is not to hot but better than you!
<br>if you try looking through a lot of glass like a scope the light is droped a hell of a lot, so you need a scope with frunt lens like a baby port hole and a tube like a 45 gallon drum to transmit the very low light through it, and only the very very best scopes can hanbel that, lots more dosh spent, well over £150.00p on this bit,
<br>if i was you i would go down the photo shop get a step up ring and a x2 dubbeler lens for a camara and stick that on the frunt of what you got now, mind you, you wont see much after that, unless you poor on the ir light, as(not a laser! there only good for targeting things at night)
<br>the F stop would have gone through the roof,
<br>gen 1 needs a better F stop than F1.2 and thats bam near imposibull if you got glass in the way
<br>hope this is of help, but trust me save your cash
<br>mike t
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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 06/06/2005
Thanks for the reply. Perhaps a little clarification is in order. First, I would never put the NVRS behind a day scope. I was talking about the XVD-04 available at Soviet Bazaar or the Outdoorsman.uk.co.
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<br>Also, if i did have the NVRS 2.5x50mm i would buy the doubler and a IR torch or laser. I hear the lasers are quite bright and my new IR torch is very, very bright and has increased the distance viewing of my YUKON NVRS 2.5X42 by 3 times. I can now see out to 80 yards, but i would never shoot past 40 because of my low magnification.
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<br>This is why i am going to revert to using the XVD. OR, if i could get a doubler, i would.
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<br>I agree with you on just about everthing else you said, but i need to look into the f-stop thing you are talking about. Good luck and have a look at the MDT200 IR laser illuminator.
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“This Yukon NVRS Titanium 2.5x50 is a really great...”
★★★★★
written by tommymp on 25/05/2004
This Yukon NVRS Titanium 2.5x50 is a really great riflescope: the second I've owned, in fact. Air rifle hunting at night is fantastic fun but the right scope makes a huge difference, so this is something I researched quite extensively. My NV quarry is rabbits and rats. The scope has a nice, clean dimmable crosshair (though it is not mil-dot) which allows me to reasonably gauge distance from target (this is one of the chief difficulties of NV hunting - I had a red dot scope before which made distance measurement really tricky, since there's no size comparison with the crosshair to go by) and the remote on/off switch is excellent, since I don't have to take my hands off the rifle to operate the scope's on/off and IR illuminator. Weight is a real plus here to - it weighs in at 0.75 kg, which makes a real difference as you sweep fields for the tell-tale IR reflections from eyes: for those of you who (like me) have a dovetail scope mounting on your rifle you will need a Weaver adaptor too. Accuracy on my Logun S-16 is good, with consistent headshots but then I do like to get relatively close (zeroed at 20 yds)- at night especially I'd rather risk being 'sprung' by rabbits and having them run away than taking a long shot and missing... I haven't used the camera adapter which comes with it yet, but it's a good idea. Overall I'd say it's a good buy: you could spend a lot more money on a GEN II device, but for me that would be like using a sledge hammer to crack a nut.
Joaoamp's Response to tommymp's Review
Written on: 24/06/2004
Hi tommy, I read carefully your review, and this is what i need to decide myself to have a NV sight to my AirArms E410 extra hi-power. I try the 1st Gen ATN MK.238, MK.258 and Aries 330 and I was very disappointed (they don't work half the money). Can you tell me if at 20 yards the IR illuminates all the viewing sight area? The optics have good resolution? When you zeroing the NV sight the aiming red crosshair remains on center of sight's viewing area? Thanks. JoaoAMP
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Bushcraft's Response to tommymp's Review
Written on: 15/12/2009
As said the 1+ gen scopes, can only be of use to 25/35yrds as standard, but simply adding a quality Infa red lamp, will boost the vision by x3+ to 70-100yds depending on size, on tagret. Obviously the larger the target the better to see at distance, expect bunny's to 40yds ok. Fox to 60 & larger animals to 80+ yds.!
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<br/>Thing is to check though , & i tried all the gen 1 models, (at great expense) Take a tip, there are 'trolls' wandering around at night !! I almost wiped a horse out, that had gone stray, where it shouldnt have been..I always double check the target with a good lamp 1st !!
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<br/>Enjoy.
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471792_Stefan1274's Response to tommymp's Review
Written on: 07/07/2009
Hi guys
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<br/>If you could please help me with some advice, it would be great.
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<br/>I am looking for a night vision scope to mount on a .30-06 Springfield for night time kudu culling. I only came across this Yukon scope, and have no idea if it is worth ordering.
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<br/>1. Will it be able to handle recoil of the 3006?
<br/>2. Will I be able to use it in the daytime?
<br/>3. Is it very cumbersome and clumsy to mount and operate?
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<br/>Please give me some feedback on this and possibly recommendations on other products if this Yukon is not up for it.
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<br/>Thanks a mil
<br/>Stefan
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Michael Thorpe's Response to tommymp's Review
Written on: 08/11/2005
i just tryed out some thing that was fun?
<br>i fitted my light forse gun light to my night sight (a very poor one at that) a pns 4.5(yuck) with an ir filter over it from cobra that cost me £20 and my range from my pns sight has gone up from 20yds to 90yds or more? and is twice as bright at 90 yds as it is in day light??? well thats got to be a cheap way of boosting your range if your night sight is a bit naf, or your been silly and put a x2 on the thing, that realy knocks them down dont it? and its a lot cheeper than a lazer plus i can still use me light for lamping if i wont to, just one word of worning, dont use the light to much as it gets hot like very hot, its only a very dim glowing red light though, so the bunnys wont mind it, so lads why not give this a go? it realy worked out fine for me and my sight was realy naf to start with, this will work on any gen type night sight, its cheap and it works, but your still humping a light around with you, happy hunting be safe
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Michael Thorpe's Response to tommymp's Review
Written on: 03/06/2005
all this talk about nv sights is wetting me tung!
<br>i was going to get a gen 2 as there at least 4 times better than gen 1 but there three times the price, so decided to stick with my lamping kit for a year or so, at least with this set up i can take a bunny with a head shot at sixty five yeards with my 40ftlb theoben, or at 100 yards with my .22 rim fire,and get a very cleen kill, both of these shots are a lot farther than the gen 1 nv scopes can see, so my point is why should i spend all that cash when im doing ok right now with what iv got? or am i missing the point here? could it be your just bosting?
<br>if so, twenty yards for a bunny? even a head shot? (you should be able to shoot there wiskers off at that range,) now thats not sport, thats just killing for the sake of it, now try setting a target up at 35 yards, and keep shooting at it till you can hit a ten pence bit every time,
<br>with your gen 1 nv sight! i bet you give up on it first, then try out a gen 4/5 sight, you should hit it then just fine, lot of dosh for another fifteen yards, but thats not your fult, its only an air rifel, now try it out on a 308/7.62mm you should get at least a mile out of it,
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Joaoamp's Response to tommymp's Review
Written on: 02/09/2004
Hi Tom,
<br>Thaks for response, your review and the tip about the laser for range finder was very helpful. I bought a NV monocular and a Yukon spotting scope on Soviet Bazaar, both products arrived in perfect conditions (these people deserves special consideration). I was indecisive between the Yukon 2.5 x 50 and Dipol D-141 M, but finally I'm decided for D-141 M (I bought it on FSU Conections). The hi-resolution Russian tube is exactly the same as the Yukon's NVRS 2.5 x 50, but the optics is maybe a bit better. As soon as possible I publish a review about D-141 M on this website.
<br>By the way, you have great PCP air gun.
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<br>Bye,
<br>Joao
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Tommymp's Response to tommymp's Review
Written on: 13/08/2004
Joao,
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<br>At 20 yards the IR illuminates NEARLY all the viewing sight area, but this is not important for me. The optics have excellent resolution for a GEN1 sight. The aiming red crosshair remains on centre of the sight's viewing area at all times. I recently bought an HTH-210 AP adjustable laser with an under-barrel mount on my Logun S-16, and this has made a huge differnce to my ability to gauge distance at night in the 2-dimensional world of NV. It's set to be in the centre of the crosshair at 20yds, and I can easily tell if I'm closer or further now: if I'm closer the dot is below the centre and if I'm further it is above, which truly facilitates accurate shooting...
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<br>BTW I lost the cover to one of the reticle adjustment turrets on the scope, and Soviet Bazaar (from whom I bought it) replaced it without a murmur: I cannot recommend their services more highly.
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<br>Enjoy!
<br>Tom
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165093_Rumpypumpy177's Response to tommymp's Review
Written on: 06/08/2004
I have this type of NVRS and have small dark spots appearing in lenses,these spots do not move, they seem to be totally static..Ok apart from that.
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Michael Thorpe's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review
Written on: 03/06/2005
dont you go thinking that a yukon gen 1 stuck on to the back of a standerd scope is going to be better, its not! its so bad that it will only works well in bright sunlight!!!, you get what you pay for, and till you spend about £4,500.00p or more your going to get junk? when you can afford a gen 3 or 4 scope then you will see what i mean, till then try putting a bit more i/r light out, with a filter on a lamp or a i/r torch as the more x mag you try to get the brighter it needs to be, its all down to the F stop of the lens, much more than F1.2 and you dont get much of a sight pitcher, to know more about F stops, pop into a camera shop thay will tell you all about them, but save your mony and DONT get a dubbler for it, as it will only make it worse than it is now, you need more i/r light to get a good sight pitcher, i have a yukon x 1, its not to bad in half moon light, i also have a x 3, thats usless in day light!, to be honest, you cant beet a lamp for bunnys, if used right!
<br>still if your having fun thats all that maters
<br>thats what shooting is about, but rember, you cant see far with a NV sight, you can with a lamp, and if theres a person out and about, and you cant see them, it only takes one unlucky shot to put you away, have fun and good hunting