Wow, when i ordered these i truly didn't know what to expect, the arc'teryx website was none too informative, but i bought them anyway, Colour taupe 34 waist 35leg, the leg length i wasn't happy about but the only other was a 32 which is too short. I was impressed the first impressions were amazing and i hadn't even put them on, very detailed very well made, casual but technical. These have a fleece waistband, gusseted crotch and articulated knees with a style that could get you into Tiffanys. More to the point they are incredibly comfortable and they have become a replacement for jeans. My guess is they are designed for late night bouldering sessions and general casual wear because of the technicality included. They are incredibly easy to move in although the fabric is heavy which isn't an issue because they aren't a full technical pant... its all in the style. I would gripe as with most pants about the belt loops they are quite far apart so the belt rides up as the loops are easily 1.5''. i would prefer if arcteryx added an internal belt and loose the loops. With any climbing pant i recommend you go for a longer leg length than usual especially if you are planning on doing sick moves on some fancy death route! Price wise at £60 they aren't cheap but trust me you really really do get your moneys worth. They are honestly fab!