Bought these as even my heavy weight winter m/bike gloves, combined with handlebar mitts, couldn't do the job during my 4 mile scooter commute in winter. These have been brilliant. No wind chill, & so far waterproof. Possible negative points - they do seem lightly made, & I worry that the inner glove layer may pull away from the outer in a short time. But to be fair, these are not designed as motorcycle gloves - & should be fine for walking use.