Yes, it's me again. Someone told me that these speakers always sound thin until they are "run in". No mention of this in Wharfedale's rather poor instructions. So, I spent a sleepless night and a day away while the speakers were constantly subject to a looped very loud swooping bass note. The result was amazing. The bass appeared! So, I now use them again and apart from a slight harshness in the mid range, I now like them a lot. So, the dear old KEFs are now back in the loft (they looked pretty naff even if they sound sweet). Just listened to the new Beatles LOVE album on them and it sounded amazing.