found a sleeve of these in a box of junk I purchased at an estate sale..... got'em home and threw it in with all my other out-of-date-never-ever-going-to-use golf stuff............but my son (who's not to good to hit a top-flight, ultra, or pinnacle) had taken these to the course and left on our golf cart...........well after drilling my titleist into a pond....I just grabbed one of these out of the sleeve, tossed it down and blasted it.........dang!......ended up playing with it all day........it really does come off the face well.....my swing speed is between 105-110, not a killer off the tee by no means, but this ball works for me....back in the day I ran across a precept U-Tri Distance which I absolutely loved...went solely with it for a year and would still be hitting it had they not discontinued the ball..........well here's it's replacement......who would of thunk it?..........give it spin, you'll be pleasantly surprised....