Plymouth Voyager LE

Totally agree the engine and transmission are not great. I have one that is getting replaced and I have had it less than a year. My brother also had the same thing happen to him. I should of known not to buy one after his problem but I thought maybe he just got a lemon. But I do not think so

Thank you for honest detail, tho confusing. Do you own more than one?

Have a 91 grand voyager, 3.3 engine, AWD. It appears the 4cyl. engine was a real lemon of an engine. The 3.0 was better than the 4cyl., but still had too many problems to rate high. But for us, the 3.3 engine is a stand-out winner of an engine. Very powerful with very high mpg for it's size and runs like a swiss watch. This engine seems indestructible. Drive a ton of miles every month - no problems. Bought van from original owner 3 yrs. ago. Orig. owner had transmission replaced. Van now has 188,000 miles. Within the past 12 months replaced the water pump, radiator, fuel pump(inside the gastank), front brake rotors, serpentine belt and serpentine belt tensioner, and rear door latch. All this has amounted to about $1,380.

Now, the brake problem voyager minivans (1990-93) have been noted for has just occurred. I've put 60,000 miles on it in three years. Prior to the latest repairs in the last 12 months, I've done nothing except change the oil religiously and give it one tuneup and a set of tires.

Considering the van is over 12 years old and has nearing 200,000 miles, I have to rate it quite high as a vehicle, because I haven't spent very much on it. The transmission replacement was a successful intstall. I have hauled 1,000 pounds of books and paper in it. I have lumber racks on the roof and frequently carry 2x lumber, 4x8 sheets of plywood, ladders, even small boat and kayak. I carry a ton of tools in it. I drive it for long highway trips frequently and drive 60-70 miles a week in it, week in and week out. Even if I spend $5,000 on it in the next several years, I will consider this a success story. Seems it's been partly careful and nonabusive driving, part engineering success and some plain luck. The previous owner towed a small boat, and said this made abnormal wear and tear on the transmission, which shortened the life of the original transm, resulting in the early replacement. I have had no problem with it as the second owner. I have four people in the car all the time, with stuff loaded in it, though I do not tow anything. This minivan is a surefire candidate to spend money on to get another 100,000 miles out of it before retiring it for good. The van has a large interior, and a completely flat floor. You can easily get from the front seats to the inside rear space of the van without having to leave the van, just like a full-sized van. The mileage for being a largish minivan is surprisingly high: we get 17.9 miles per gallon using 89 octane gas, combination city and freeway use. The motor burns oil, about a half-quart each month of about 400 miles of driving each month. This seems reasonable for a 188,000 mile engine. The half-shafts needs to be replaced, which will be a 370.00 cost for both.

The brake problem cost is not yet known as I will be taking it in for the repair, but consumer reports recall publications goes into detail about what is the culprit. The brakes completely lost braking power, and the pedal went from being completely normal to almost competely ridgid with just enough hydraulic pressure to bring the vehicle to a stop. Fortunately, we were able to return home.

The WAY the brake system breaks down is very unfortunate and very dangerous; READ the consumer report publication and FIX the problem area BEFORE the brakes go into fail mode. This includes refitting the van with stainless steel brake hoses.

We will have to tow the van to the shop. This is an extra expense, more than usual because the van is AWD and requires the lifting of the entire vehicle(all four wheels)off of the ground. If not towed correctly, the transmission and AWD will be damaged. AWD owners, make note of this!

In the end, I rate the van very high. It's the best "newer" vehicle we've ever had. The 91 model has great comfortable seating, all kinds of neat storage and cupholders, really nice ergonomics, huge room, the awesome 3.3 engine, fun driving qualities and comfortable interior layout and a very nice ambience about the inside, including the drivers position.