I got one of the John Bull beer kits recently, been using Coopers before but wanted a different kit to try something new. I'm impressed with the quality, pity though it doesn't come in a 3kg all malt version. Making it was no difference to Coopers, just as easy and the result similar, maybe a little more body. I think Hambleton Bard got it right here, just wish they would bring out an all-malt kit as well.