Recommended power for killing vermin?

From NI, 6 posts

I am thinking of purchising a Beeman 2004e single stroke pneumatic pistol (.177). Its rated at 440FPS and i will use bisley sharp points pellets and occasionally prometheus pellets.



Would this pistol have enough power for killing at up to 20 feet. I would be shooting small birds and rats.



Also, would a scope be good, or should i stick with the open sights?

From Canada, 4 posts

any hunting should be done with a rifle.



420 fps isn't very strong at ranges that exceed 15ft.



it's just plain cruel.



no point getting a scope on the gun either, it dosen't have enough power to be even accurate at the distances you would use the scope at.



get a rifel with 600fps+, much more fun w/ scope and you will actually kill the animal with your shot, and not have to fire in 3x more at close range to finish it off.

From NI, 6 posts

Would it be able to penatrate feathered birds up to 15 feet?

From Canada, 81 posts

I think that gun is only 420fps, I agree that it’s not powerful enough for any kind of hunting...

From Canada, 4 posts

it might penetrate at 10-15 ft but it wouldn't kill it.



You would have to shoot point blank at it like 4 times for it to die.



if you are looking to hunt, get a rifel.. more power.. get a scope and it's much funner.

From Maryland, 100 posts

I killed a crow type bird at about 5 yards with a Benjamin Sheridan .22 pump. They are usually around 400 fps. I would think that I'd get even better penetration w/ .177 cal. Like I'm looking at the Beeman P3 for going on walks. Then I can like pop birds off electric lines.

From Uk, 34 posts

Originally posted by GamoFreak on 5 Feb 2006 9:34 PM
I killed a crow type bird at about 5 yards with a Benjamin Sheridan .22 pump. They are usually around 400 fps. I would think that I'd get even better penetration w/ .177 cal. Like I'm looking at the Beeman P3 for going on walks. Then I can like pop birds off electric lines.Electric lines!!- are you completely brain dead?

From Maryland, 100 posts

Hey, I'm just putting my 2 cents out there... even though it may not be worth an entire 2 cents.

95 posts

Originally posted by GamoFreak on 11 Feb 2006 9:18 AM
Hey, I'm just putting my 2 cents out there... even though it may not be worth an entire 2 cents.



I'm afraid it's people like you that get air pistol/rifle users a bad name. The comment you made was completely cretinous. If you have nothing better to post, better to stay off this board.



G.

From Maryland, 100 posts

G, sorry.... I didn't know that it was so taboo to try hunting w/ pistols.