Honda CBR125R Reviews
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★☆☆☆☆
“Honda CBR125R”
Written on: 01/05/2013 by ripped--off
Brought a brand new Honda 2012 cbr125r from peter stevens in Melbourne Victoria Australia, and what a lemon they sold me. On the first service they done, when i was riding it home i heard a loud crunching noise, which forced me to pull over and stop, also the gears were hard to change through, and the chain was catching the sprocket unevenly. Got it home corrected all the faults myself and it ran perfectly after that, and I vowed never to let them animals touch my bike again. 11,000... (read more)
★★★★☆
“Great little bike for the city or backroads.”
Written on: 07/04/2013 by LS650 (1 review written)
I owned a 2007 for a year, sold it, missed it, and then bought a new 2011 version of the same model. I would not have gone back to a CBR125R unless I was really happy with it. Pros: Starts easy and is extremely reliable in all weather and temperatures. Very light and flickable through the corners, decent brakes, looks okay. Honda quality. Cons: It's only a 125cc, so it's great up to about 90kph (55mph) and then pretty much runs out of steam. If you open the throttle up, it will... (read more)
★★☆☆☆
“cutting out and gear problem?”
Written on: 12/03/2013 by FLATOUT27
Just recently purchased a cbr 125 in march 2013 brand new,when driving it home from the showroom it was smooth as silk and by far the best 125 i have ever ridden. However, after 2days of having it,i started it up one morning (sweet as a nut)and after travelling about 150yds came to a junction and it cut out on me. It took a few touches of the starter button to get it going again and took a while to get up to 3000 rpm? Even after this the bike seemed rather slugish and it seemed as if the... (read more)
Ls650's Response to FLATOUT27's Review
Written on: 07/04/2013
Seems like the problem is more with the dealership than the bike! Take it back and tell them to fix it under warranty, and not to call you until they've test rode it some distance and know it to be fixed!
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★★★★★
“amazing bike , couldnt ask for more :)”
Written on: 12/03/2013 by riding.in.the.rain
Hi guys and girls , im going to save you some time and just say buy it now! , i just bought it tonight and had to ride 35-40 miles and it felt like a breeze ,i have had a little experience with the honda cbr as my last bike was a skyjet fj 23 which is piece for piece the same bike (but jap), this bike is so easy to adapt to and control , i managed to get 75 out of it on a slight downhill, i couldnt see any problems with it at all , it held its ground on the roads and i felt presence , the... (read more)
★★★☆☆
“seems an ok bike”
Written on: 12/02/2013 by gwizz (1 review written)
Iv brought a 2012 black Honda 125,its 8 months old,with 2000 on the clock,iv been riding it 6 weeks,its a great first bike to learn on,looks good,its nippy around town,great on fuel/insurance.Its my first Honda,to be honest the build quality is not great,being Honda live on there build quality sales Pitch.first to second gear is a pain,you will catch neutral,down shifting is a pain to,does not really like it,iv also found that when you hit 62 it slips out of gear,the back wheel also kicks... (read more)
★★★★★
“Absolutely fantastic bike ”
Written on: 06/12/2012 by SpeedyGonzales1
I have just brought the latest model 125R. This is my first bike and i have to say, i absolutely love it. Its really forgiving with gear mistakes and is a real joy to ride. It's not as fast as i expected but it is onyl a 125cc. cant seem to get it past 65 even though spec says top speed 75. I know ill be keeping this bike for a couple of years before i upgrade and i dont think i could of picked a better bike. if you can afford to buy it and you are looking for a decent 125 this is definitely... (read more)
Pottedmeat's Response to SpeedyGonzales1's Review
Written on: 26/12/2012
ive owned 2 a 05model & a2012 new model with the bigger wheels tires and new body work. its a big inprovement, steering is better and the road pressence is a lot better as it is a full size bike now. it was a little small and skinny in its first incarnashen. body work is more moden with angler lines which i like. as it is more moden than chinesse bikes. which in my apinion the cbr is worth the money as it is honda with good build qualty.
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★★★★★
“i think this is best bike ive ever bought i use 2 own...”
Written on: 20/11/2012 by celticman123
i think this is best bike ive ever bought i use 2 own peugeot xr6 hondyi chituma peugeot speedfight this well farest best one ive bought great on fuel great for parts i own honda cbr 125 rs-6 repsol (read more)
★★★★★
“happy hammers 2011 cbr”
Written on: 08/10/2012
im 45 mid life cricis probably.wonderful bike comfy ride looks great 17 inch rear makes all the difference.it inspires confidence especially at bends and roundabouts. (read more)
★★★★★
“CBR125 RSC 2012”
Written on: 08/05/2012 by wadey3103
I have the brand new Honda CBR 125 RSC in the Repsol and Honda Racing colours. It is absolutely fantastic, the bike runs as smooth as anything and now that the new body is even chunkier than the old CBR's, it looks like a bike should too! acceleration is fantastic for a 125, the handling is fantastic, the tyres are nice and chunky now so when it comes to bad weather and ragging it about on twisty roads, it'll hold on for dear life. The exhaust would be my only complaint, I am not sure if i... (read more)
★★★★☆
“Great little bike!”
Written on: 26/01/2012
I have had my CBR for about a month and the ride quality is amazing! I changed from a TMEC Enduro 125cc to this and already I have noticed so many great aspects of this bike! For example, the ride comfort is outstanding, never had a problem with being uncomfy on any journey. It is a small but very nippy bike! I have the 2007 model and I can get 60mph in 4th Gear, 75mph in 5th and have never had a long enough road to go flat out on it but who needs it to go that fast? The bike is reliable,... (read more)
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★★★★★
“Cbr 125 rwb 2011”
Written on: 05/10/2011
Ive owned this bike for 4 weeks now and still not filled it up yet so a tank of fuel will last me 5-6 weeks doing 60 miles a week (300-360 miles). On my 6 mile ride to work I use the A47 and when coming off the slip road to join I have always been upto speed (70mph indicated) and will happily stay there. My bike has done over 3500 miles and to me it feels like new and no problems starting hot or cold. The exhaust sounds nice for a 125 especially when reving down off throttle. I do have one... (read more)
Guest's Comment
Written on: 08/03/2012
from your comment that reasures me that buying one today was the right choice.
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Qball7777's Comment
Written on: 10/05/2012
your dropping into 2 lower of a gear at speed i did the same thing
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★★★★☆
“Great bike & perfect step up to bigger bike”
Written on: 04/09/2011 by koolgaz522
I have been riding my CBR125R for just over 6 months now and have thoroughly enjoyed every moment of it. I have had a small issue with it cutting out at very high revs but seems to have been fixed by cleaning the carb and fuel tank (seemed to be bad fuel). This on the other hand, did highlight to me just how simple and easy to work on this bike is. Stripping down, cleaning, putting back together and testing took all of an hour and a half :-) All in all the bike is slightly on the small side... (read more)
★★★★☆
“Fun little bike”
Written on: 10/06/2011
2007 CBR125R Pro: - cheap to buy, cheap to insure, cheap to run - ideal for a beginning rider or a commuter - acceleration from zero to about 80 KPH is good - nice-looking machine - light and flickable, great on a curvy country road Cons: -it's still only a 125 so lacking in power once you get up to about 90 KPH. - steady cruising speed is realistically only about 100 KPH, with short bursts to maybe 120. This is about the only 125cc streetbike in Canada, as we do not have the licencing... (read more)
★★★★★
“Cbr review”
Written on: 10/06/2011
Great bike and perfect value for money, top speed 74mph red lining every gear. Will happily ride at 50-60mph all day gear change is nice and smooth good acceleration, £10 will last me 98mils in petrol. i ride the bike every day to and from college and from work and back never had a problem. (read more)
Guest's Comment
Written on: 29/03/2012
98mile from £10 ? have you got a hole in your tank??
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Qball7777's Comment
Written on: 07/05/2012
theres something wrong with ya bike if ya only get 98 to a tenner mines got 16,000 on the clock and i get near 200 to £10
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★★★★☆
“Geate bike. Had its just over 2 months now. It had...”
Written on: 07/03/2011
Geate bike. Had its just over 2 months now. It had 4085 miles on the clock when i got it. Ive done around 400 miles on it since. Carn't raily fault the bikee only down side that i find raily anoying is flicking from first gear to second. Its a big stride and sometimes found myself in nutral. Other than that its an amazing bike and and would recommend every new rider to get one. (read more)
Jed446's Comment
Written on: 16/05/2011
hey, im a first time rider and looking to buy a Honda CBR 125 when ive done my test. tad worried about the gear change from first to second is that something to get used to or is an announce that will always occur? thanks :D
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★★★★★
“fansatic bike. i bought it with around 8000 miles on...”
Written on: 12/01/2011
fansatic bike. i bought it with around 8000 miles on the clock from a friend, i have done nearly 4000 miles on it. never has it broken down, i have never had any problems atall with it all i have had to change on it since i have had it was the chain. aslong as you take good care of it, it will be the perfect bike for your first 125.
who cares about speed for your learner bike you cant hit those speeds on your test anyway and thats all you want a 125 for practice an learning and passing your...
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★★★★★
“Well this is my first and current bike, where should I...”
Written on: 08/09/2010
Well this is my first and current bike, where should I start? Oh yes, this baby runs on something crazy like 90mpg, I literally top it up with £5 every fortnight and it's absolutely fine!
It sounds B-e-a-utiful for a 4 stroke 125, very throaty even with the stock exhaust system. the brakes are great, acceleration is good, although you'll jump to 2nd gear in a matter of seconds, it redlines at 10000rpm.
It takes corners rather well considering how slim the tyres are, but don't let that get...
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★★★★☆
“So far I cannot complain, as I have only had the bike...”
Written on: 05/09/2010
So far I cannot complain, as I have only had the bike a little while. However there is just one point I would like to express. That point is this, changing from 1st gear to 2nd is quite a long/large stroke and have gone into neutral by mistake.
Compared to Aprilla RS125 and Yamaha YZF 125 I have found this bike more comfortable and easier to ride. I believe this is due to size of fuel tank and height of bike.
Just a couple of things I would have liked before purchase is this, have a ride on...
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★★★★★
“Great bike fast and sounds good with a sports xhorst on”
Written on: 30/05/2010
Great bike fast and sounds good with a sports xhorst on (read more)
★★★☆☆
“i have had this bike from 200 miles on the clock. its...”
Written on: 13/05/2010
i have had this bike from 200 miles on the clock. its naw dun 7000 in a year in that time it has contiuly let me down, the gear box has needed 3 serveses. it keeps droping out of gear (mainly in 2nd). the cluch also has a tedency to ingage itself.....
on the bright sido thow, when it is working its a magical bike. it will take all the corners you throw at it and u will run out off balls in the corners befot this bike dus. the exeliration is a bit slow but its good inuf for a lerner. and...
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Ppppppppppp's Comment
Written on: 15/01/2011
I found this review not helpful because... I speak English and was unable to decipher the appalling vocabulary. Every other word was gibberish. Jus sayin m8 !
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Guest's Comment
Written on: 26/11/2011
also unable to translate this into english but i would guess that the reliability issues were because of a lack of servicing/correct treatment rather than the build quality.
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Guest's Comment
Written on: 27/01/2012
Yeah, I have to agree with the other comments. Anyone who writes this badly doesn't inspire any confidence whatsoever in their ability to give a valued opinion. And learn what MPG means - it's not how far you can go on a full tank! Sorry mate, but if you write this badly, you're just wasting your time and ours.
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★★★★★
“i have had alot of bikes and the honda is the best bike ”
Written on: 06/03/2010
i have had alot of bikes and the honda is the best bike
i love it to bits
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★★★★☆
“I have one of these and I love it. Ive dropped it,...”
Written on: 22/02/2010 by Blessy (9 reviews written)
I have one of these and I love it. Ive dropped it, crashed it and ragged it and it still starts just by tapping the starter button. Its a little difficult to maintain because you have to take off the front just to change the headlamps and you have to remove the tank (and seats) to get to the air filter. This goes fast round corners (when its dry!!). Max speed 85 (me being 10 stone, 5ft 6) on a nice road laying on the tank. Faults: Looks very thin looking at it from the front. I thought I was... (read more)
★★★★★
“Fantastic- runs on the smell of an oily rag, fun in...”
Written on: 11/01/2010
Fantastic- runs on the smell of an oily rag, fun in the corners, great little gearbox, and the looks of a much larger bike (cbr600rr) And a bargain basement price- if you need a neat little commute bike, this could be your bike! (read more)
★★★☆☆
“The bike is great if you are looking for a cheap...”
Written on: 04/12/2009
The bike is great if you are looking for a cheap beginners bike, it has good value for money... but, it is damn slow and it looks as if you are riding on bicycle wheels!!
so if you are a beginner, not looking for any hassels and just want to get from A to B its a decent bike. If you want to feel as if your riding a real bike not an electrical toy i would rather reccomend an aprilia RS125 the price difference is large but it is truely worth it!
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★★★☆☆
“Good points: ”
Written on: 08/10/2009 by the elements600 (8 reviews written)
Good points:
* Reasonably priced and holds it's value well.
* Reliability and finding spare parts is unlikely to be much of an issue.
* Very cheap to run and is lighter than a feather.
Bad points:
* Slower than a dead slug!
* Doesn't feel too planted on the road at speed.
General Comments:
A few months ago I took my SV in for a service, and as I needed to do a few things whilst the bike was being sorted I was given a Honda CBR125R for the day. "Brilliant!" I thought, having a 125...
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Racinglineman101's Response to the elements600's Review
Written on: 30/01/2011
I found this review very helpful because... It covered everything that you would need to know about the bike good and bad points and an overall analysis on why you may or may not want to buy it.
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★★★★☆
“I brought my Honda CBR125 with 400 miles on the...”
Written on: 08/08/2009
I brought my Honda CBR125 with 400 miles on the clock...I have now covered over 3500 miles on it!
So first thing first...speed! I have got 81mph out of it but this is not a regular occurence...normally it sits between 70-75mph. Now think about it, as the national limit for a single lane road is 60...its quick enough to overtake and on the duel lanes, not every one does 60! Catch my drift?
1st gear is rubbish so its bumped into 2nd sraight away and its happy thru to 4th. Hit 5th and you...
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★★★★☆
“Honda CBR125R has freat acceleration after tuning”
Written on: 02/06/2009
Honda CBR125R has freat acceleration after tuning (read more)
★★★★★
“The Honda CBR125R is a good looking bike for the price ”
Written on: 14/05/2009
The Honda CBR125R is a good looking bike for the price (read more)
★★★★★
“I'm 39 and getting back to biking after 13 years. I...”
Written on: 13/05/2009
I'm 39 and getting back to biking after 13 years. I needed a bike that looked good ( I'm still a poser) but also ideal for commuting daily. I bought my Honda CBR125R 1 month ago and have no regrets, it's fantastic. I'm really impressed at how easy it handles and looks. A great looking bike but practical to run. (read more)
★★★★★
“Love this Honda CBR125R. I'm 26 years old and this is...”
Written on: 13/05/2009 by reugre (1 review written)
Love this Honda CBR125R. I'm 26 years old and this is my first bike ever. Its very easy to learn on it. I found the acceleration pritty good and the looks are great. It delenitly looks like it has a bigger engine. I had the bike for just a week now and I can already ride comfortably on the road with no problems. Mind you i have never touched a bike in my life before this. So it defenitly is a very good learner. I recommand it to any new starter. (read more)
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★★★★★
“~The Honda CBR125R is a great bike to have. it rides...”
Written on: 25/04/2009
~The Honda CBR125R is a great bike to have. it rides very smooth (read more)
★★★★★
“The Honda CBR125R is comfortable to ride Excellent...”
Written on: 27/03/2009 by Archieellrob
The Honda CBR125R is comfortable to ride Excellent first bike reliable easy to drive and maintain (read more)
★★★★★
“The Honda CBR125R has great handling & breaking , good...”
Written on: 14/03/2009 by mydas
The Honda CBR125R has great handling & breaking , good style, and low cost of fuel. From my point of view this 125 is great for new riders that want to advance later into more strong motorcycles but is also a good option in general. I also used my CBR 125 to travel between towns with 70Km distance (1.20 hr) and found it pretty good with no serious problems. Besides being a perfect motorcycle for doing my jobs inside and outside of town this bike also proved to be really cool. I do find, Low... (read more)
★★★★☆
“For someone getting back on a motorcycle or just...”
Written on: 19/11/2008
For someone getting back on a motorcycle or just starting this bike is very easy to learn with but after a couple of months either your looking for bit more power or wanting to get rid of it for a bigger one. Still have to say have a ball of a time with it though I out grew it fast. Only thing I want is a few more hp for passing purpose. I have had the bike full out and could only get it to go 137 km/hr (manual I have says it has top end of 140 km/h) and I am 240lbs so that is impressive as... (read more)
★★★★★
“Amazing looks, ride comfort and sound. It makes my...”
Written on: 04/11/2008
Amazing looks, ride comfort and sound. It makes my mouth water when I hear it. There are good colour schemes and there isn't any better bike for under £3000. Insurance is a few hundred more than others though because it is a superbike replica. However, "hello! it is a superbike replica!" Totally worth it. (read more)
★★★★★
“At 6ft 2in and 12stone I ' m not a small 17yr old and...”
Written on: 28/10/2008 by babybrisk91 (2 reviews written)
At 6ft 2in and 12stone I ' m not a small 17yr old and while I admit the bike may be a little small I find it more comfortable than some of the bigger 125's the acceleration is also good and the top speed isn ' t bad could be much better but what couldn ' t? I generally get 75-80mph out of mine on the dual carriage way coming home from work. I love the sound as people often mistake the bike for a 400-600cc so no complaining there. I am currently looking for a new exhaust not something I... (read more)
True Rider 531's Response to babybrisk91's Review
Written on: 09/02/2011
hi just saw that your thinking of changing your exhaust dont put a leo vincy pipe on put a arrow or yoshimaro pipe both available on ebay quite cheap i have a 2006 cbr 125 with a arrow pipe and it sound like a 750:D
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★★★★★
“Its brilliant for your first bike...very easy to learn...”
Written on: 03/10/2008 by mlock09
Its brilliant for your first bike...very easy to learn on and its sporty.. It is a very tough bike and does not break... only downside is the performance, you get bored after awhile...but it will still beat a lot of cars off the mark. (read more)
★★★★★
“It ' s a very reliable bike, you get lots of respect...”
Written on: 14/09/2008 by harrison atkins
It ' s a very reliable bike, you get lots of respect as ova bikers nod at you, its also considerably quick off the line if your good with gears and top end its good and even at that speed it don ' t sound like its struggling, petrol is cheap for a full tank you should pay about £8 or so and I use the v power petrol as well. When I first rode it I thought it was going to be hard handling and heavy like my old gilera DNA but it ' s so light and you have great control over it you can almost... (read more)
★★★★★
“Great bike looks really cool, fine blasting round at...”
Written on: 02/09/2008
Great bike looks really cool, fine blasting round at 60 doesn't rake the engine i recommend a remus exhaust can or full pipe gives you a proper sound,fast off the line, handles amazingly was very suprised mine will do about 75 on the flat, got 92 downhill so far drove from Newquay to plymouth took about an hour most fun I've had on a bike, these bikes are exspensive but hold there value really well, still trying to find some bore kits but doesnt seem to be much out there. (read more)
★★★★★
“Fantasic bike to drive with lots of power and good...”
Written on: 02/09/2008 by dave honda man (1 review written)
Fantasic bike to drive with lots of power and good looks. Very reliable bike very comfey and always fun to be on. Love my bike it does everything that I want it to do unlike other 125s. (read more)
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★★★★★
“Very good learner bike...awesome commuter bike cheap...”
Written on: 29/08/2008
Very good learner bike...awesome commuter bike cheap and efficient. Fuel Economy. Looks great. Awesome Handling. (read more)
★★★★★
“The honda cbr 125r is a grate bike and one of the best...”
Written on: 24/08/2008
The honda cbr 125r is a grate bike and one of the best 125s out there. The exhaust dosnt sound good standard when you get the bike I sugest that you get a new exhaust for it. Like a cowley exhaust witch will make your bike sound as good as it looks. (read more)
★★★★★
“I bought my Honda CBR 125r 2 months ago and find it...”
Written on: 22/08/2008
I bought my Honda CBR 125r 2 months ago and find it brilliant to ride in traffic for fuel economy and reliability it handles great and has good acceleration. Overall a awesome fun bike to own and drive it gets a lot of looks from others. (read more)
★★★★★
“Overall a cool bike. Light on fuel very good handeling...”
Written on: 22/08/2008
Overall a cool bike. Light on fuel very good handeling for a small bike awsome looks and comfortable. 6 gear for downhill only a little slow on top end and I've experianced that some timer it jumps out of 5th or 6th gear at about 7 to 8 thousend revs. (read more)
★★★★☆
“I'm a new rider...just about to turn 17, but i have...”
Written on: 16/08/2008 by Ghowlz (1 review written)
I'm a new rider...just about to turn 17, but i have already taken the bike for a spin around the factory's near my house and seen as i have never riden a sports bike before i found the handling suprisingly easy.
I bought the bike second hand and it needed work doing to it. I found that it is easy to maintain and spares are suprisingly cheap. Fairings can be bought just £20 each.
If the is any one out there that is good with bikes there's one problem I've got. As i have fixed most problems...
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Guest's Response to Ghowlz's Review
Written on: 14/07/2012
Hi mate! No disrespect, but how do you know that your bike does 95 mph[!!!!!!]?,if your speedo doesn't work...or am i a bit senile?!
Mine is a 2008 r-w ,and it is a struggle to get it to 70..downhill.
It is completely standard-no mods..and it isn't designed to go
much faster anyway.
Still is a great little bike to ride..much better than the "putt-putt's" of my youth,back in the early 1960's,when a 125 wouldn't go above 50 mph!!
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★★★★★
“I brought my CBR in April 2008 having just pasted my...”
Written on: 04/08/2008 by nooborpro (2 reviews written)
I brought my CBR in April 2008 having just pasted my CBT. Drove all the way from Brum to Manchester (roughly 100 miles) to pick her up. From the outset I loved her, spent about 3 hours getting home on the back roads, getting up to speeds of 70mph. filtering though traffic is no problem it beats and little scooter in its agility and looks a dream (from the side). All bikers recognize you and you get that all respecting nod and zoom past each other. Within 3 days of getting here I had put 500... (read more)
Danielvaradero's Response to nooborpro's Review
Written on: 20/08/2008
nice review, I've just sold my varadero (it had to many problems) and now thinking of getting a cbr or xr 125.
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Chezdom17's Response to nooborpro's Review
Written on: 10/09/2010
Hi very good review thinking of getting a cbr125 but would like to put a performance can i see you have put the scorpion can on which one is it as i belive there is more than one and were did you get it from, would appreiate a reply thanks Dom
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★★★★★
“Easy to handle and light. Enough performance for in...”
Written on: 12/07/2008
Easy to handle and light. Enough performance for in traffic driving. Cheap! (read more)
★★★★★
“The Honda CBR125R has everything you could want to...”
Written on: 09/07/2008 by snail2027 (1 review written)
The Honda CBR125R has everything you could want to begin with at the price of a scooter. Buying secondhand will save you a great deal as I found the dealers aren't too willing to negotiate a price due to low profit margins. Services at the dealership are fairly expensive as expected however you do get a comprehensive job, not just the oil change. It's great on petrol I fill up with $10 premium (about 6L) and it drives around 220km with the occasional thrashing.
The bikes body looks very...
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★★★★★
“Overall the CBR125R is a very good bike, good handling...”
Written on: 08/07/2008 by pidgeman (2 reviews written)
Overall the CBR125R is a very good bike, good handling and acceleration, perfect for learner or commuter, petrol is cheap (approx £7.50 for full tank) and good mpg. (read more)
★★★★★
“The Honda CBR125 is a very good bike for learner, not...”
Written on: 07/07/2008 by pidgeman (2 reviews written)
The Honda CBR125 is a very good bike for learner, not to quick and easy to handle, will out drag most things off set of traffic lights, does anyone know where to get parts for these bikes that may boost performance slightly? (read more)
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Alexd118's Response to LS650's Review
Written on: 29/04/2013
iv got a 06 cbr125 iv rejetted makes it far quicker to 70 a lot more fun on back roads now