Written on: 20/02/2008
The import version of the Honda Civic is by far the best with its 160bhp and it can be boosted quite easily with simple mods and without spending a lot of money and a real head turner when its moving and stopped! Vtec gives a great kick and has a great sound that all Honda owners love!...
Read full reviewWritten on: 17/01/2008
Being 160hp the engine is almost maxed out already, later version B16's raised compression for the 170hp, and the japan spec civic type r has a B16B, again raised compression and about 20 other modifications to raise power to 185hp so any claims that a simple CAI + exhaust are going to raise horsepower a significant amount are pretty much just talk....I love Honda's, I drive Honda's, great cars! best N/A car money can buy. The difference between a Si and a SiR is Vtec, Si models are a DOHC non Vtec...
Read full reviewWritten on: 04/01/2008
The Civic SIR or (EM1) is an amazing car. Its very reliable, very good on gas (Premium), and handles great with quick acceleration 0-60 7.2's. So what that there is almost no torque 111 and the cup holders are a bad design. I think it's still one of the better build Civic's that I have seen and driven. But watch out thieves and kids love this car. I constantly get kids trying to race me and it's not a good idea to leave one parked unattended in bad neighbourhood. Too bad they only made a year and...
Read full reviewWritten on: 04/08/2005
Honda Civic SIR 1.6 engines have a range of different powers straight from the factory, anywhere between 160bhp and 170bhp. But not only is there power, the gearing is so perfect that this car can out accelerate much better cars on paper.
I've modified the car by changing the air intake (this was mainly to hear the VTEC since Honda have made a long air intake system to kill the noise pollution- I highly recommend this, it's sweet and not too loud) and also I've taken the CAT off. I would...
Written on: 12/08/2004
I'm a proud owner of a 99 Honda Civic SIR. This is one great fun car to be with. I love this car. It handles great, has decent power, sounds AWESOME above 5500 rpm at WOT, looks great in an understated way, and its a Honda. There are faster cars, and there are cheaper cars, but there are no faster cheaper cars than the SiR. Below 5500 rpm, it feels ok. Above 5500, wow! Yes, I realize it is no torquey V8 off the line, but it rips for a 1.6 litre four cylinder. Again, be prepared to take it to redline...
Read full reviewWritten on: 14/02/2004
The 1999 Honda Civic SIR is the best looking Civic ever. It is very easy to get 20-30 more horsepower and just as easy to make it handle like it's glued to the road. For more horsepower use AEM cold air intake (old or new V2 are about the same). I used DC 4-2-1 headers and high flow cat with Greddy evo exhaust and it is a great set-up. I added a lightweight Unorthadox flywheel and A.C.T. clutch and now the acceleration is insane. I put in Skunk 2 stage 1 cams, valves, springs, titanium retainers,...
Read full reviewWritten on: 02/02/2004
I got my Honda Civic SIR a Centre Force Clutch kit and it was nearly the best thing I did , but if you are one of those who get excited while racing and double the clutch , think a lot before buying one because you will wear out the accels and ruin the engine and gear mountings. after adding the headers , MSD and air filtration I got to a top speed of 235 km/hr. Lots of weight inside the car will het the power down....
Read full reviewWritten on: 07/01/2004
The car is a 1999 Honda Civic SIR. I used to work for Honda and I know first hand the quality that is built into this car. This is the best Honda you can buy. Best bang for the buck, this is a fantastic car. I have owned the car since new and have had absolutely no problems. With inexpensive mods this car can really fly. I highly recommend taking a SIR on a road course, this is where this car really shines, even with all stock parts, you will be pleasently suprised when you blow the doors off other...
Read full reviewWritten on: 18/12/2003
I have owned a 2000 Honda Civic SiR since new and have been in heaven ever since. What more could you ask for then to be able to bring a car up to 8000rpm. There is so much time to enjoy the sound of the engine. I have added a few bolt ons, such as a DC Sport exhaust (creates an amazing growl to the exhaust), an AEM Cold Air Intake (adds to the growl), lowered (for even better cornering), and 18' RH M5s (just the right finishing touch, for now). I have about two pages full of future upgrades. That...
Read full reviewWritten on: 03/08/2003
Its a fun car. Good looking. Handles well, but could use a little work on turns. Its low end tourque could make u suffer on an unprepared race, however, once u get to ur 5rpms the car screams and is ready when push comes to shove. You can actually push to 8,300 RPMS without causing the needle to bounce...
Read full reviewWritten on: 31/07/2003
I just purchased a 2000 Civic SIR it is silver and it is lowered with 17 inch rims which makes it handle even better. I love the car more then life it self but only thing that I am dissapointed with is the low end torque, if you wanna race a guy at the lights and he catches you off gaurd you are done. The tranny is very smooth it shifts wonderful same with the mtr smooth as silk. I love the way the motor changes tune at 5500rpm and screams all the way to 8000rpm it makes me smile everytime. I would...
Read full reviewWritten on: 15/07/2003
I would recommend this car to any enthusiast, it takes a close second behind the integra gs-r only because of lack of torque and refinement. if you are choosing between the si and the sir, pick the sir. your gonna get a more potent powerplant (b16a), close ratio transmission, uprated suspension, 15" alloy rims, rear disc brakes, leather wrapped steering wheel and shift knob, sportier seats with more support, and other refinements such as white faced gauges, a mesh front grill, and a front chin spoiler....
Read full reviewWritten on: 27/03/2003
I previously owned a 98 civic DX coupe, When I got the 2000 SIR,,,holy s***!!!!!
I first drove it stock and was impressed with the vtec.
After installing a cold air (a must) a cat back exhaust, headers and type R cams,,,you will be rolling from 160HP to approx. 195 in no time.
The new V2 AEM cold air gives that extra torque that I know you r all looking for in the mid RPM, Exhaust and headers make a huge difference on the highway.
The torque that we are all searching...
Written on: 17/02/2003
Overall the car meets all expectations, but because of the ecu some mod's can't be accomplished such as the Throttle body spacer. The spacer cause's the ecu to go nuts and the check engine light always comes up and it even ruins your idle control valve and sensors. So buyer beware don't trust any manufacters clamed obd2 safe. Plus i dynoed my civic with the spacer and i produced 176.3 fw hp, when i removed the spacer i produced 179.3hp @ fw. DON"T BUY A SPACER, it's now costing me over $450.00 to...
Read full reviewWritten on: 16/02/2003
Overall a good bang for your buck. Reasonable cargo room even with the back seats occupied and the styling is a refreshing change...
Read full reviewWritten on: 19/11/2002
I am the proud owner of a 2000 Civic SiR (Silver) and am very happy with it. It does lack a little bit in the tourque department, but let the V-Tec kick in and the car flies. Above 5k, it pulls like a mad man until the rev govenor kicks out at 8200. I know (won't say how) that the car will get to at least 220km/h, and I also know it will beat cars like Grand Am GT's, and keep up with 3.5L Altima's. For a guy who loves to really "drive", this is a great car....
Read full reviewWritten on: 02/10/2002
I have the export version sir Honda Civic hatchback with 160hp engine. It has so far proven to be a hassle free car that you can THRASH all day and not have to worry about getting to work later. And i've had it for 6 years, ringing it's little neck every day! For the price, it was pretty much the fastest in it's class. The Honda quality is there, and the gear box is very smooth. The engine is the best thing about this car, with simple mods, the vtec really screams - and sounds amazing....
Read full reviewWritten on: 09/09/2002
I've just recently bought this sweet car: 1998 civic VTi-R (the Australian equivalent to an Sir) - 160Hp 1.6L DOHC VTEC. It goes like a bat outta hell if ur in the sweet VTEC zone.....but sometimes the lack of torque is annoying -downshifts are a common occurrence (when maybe they shouldnt be necessary). It is good to be able to drive it like a normal civic, but when u need it, use the power that lurks within! always look for cars that have been thrashed....stuffed gearboxes and cluches are relatively...
Read full reviewWritten on: 11/09/2002
good review... personally I'd rather an automatic Saab 9000 over a civic, but it all comes down to personal preference... ;)
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Written on: 14/09/2002
Does anyone know a web site, where i can find all about installing mod kits for all types of Civics??
Written on: 28/12/2003
Does anyone know how I can find an approximate value for a 2000 Honda Civic SIR, leather interior, performance tires, sun roof, power everything, reasonable condition but needs paint touchups, with 150000 kms on it?
Written on: 03/08/2002
Masters: The first thing you should do is put in an AEM cold air intake. Don't was money on short ram intakes as they don't do anything. The CAI will add 8hp to the wheels. Next you ahve to do ur exhaust and make sure it is full cat-back. This adds about 4hp to the wheels. After that do whatever you have money for...but ur gonna have to do some interior engine mods if you want a turbo or super charger.
Also...the info about Si vs. SiR above is incorrect. The difference between the 2 is that...
Written on: 08/10/2002
That's not the only difference between the Si and the SiR. The SiR has ABS brakes as well as Side Rear-View Mirror Defrosters. The SiR is roughly 35 Kg's heavier but is a lot faster =).
Written on: 12/12/2002
the si is the 160hp usa edition,the sir 160hp is the canadian edition.
the si in canada in the ex in the states
Written on: 23/03/2003
vtecguy. If you look at dopeness and bob's comments on your review of the civic SiR, you'll see that Master's was refering to the difference between the american Si version of the civic and the canadian SiR. Not the difference between the Si and SiR from Canada. I know this because i had a conversation with him earlier about this very same topic. As dopeness and bob had also stated, it's the heated side mirrors and ABS brakes that are the only difference between the american Si and Canadian SiR.
Written on: 24/07/2002
The Honda Civic SiR is a true Hot hatch that did not need 2.0lt or a Turbo! It could compete in all categories with all similarly priced hot hatches on performance, price, practicality, brakes and handling. It still competes - look at the stats 10 years on. Clio sport, Golf VR6, Golf turbo - nothing comes close on the track or the street or the strip!...
Read full reviewWritten on: 14/06/2002
Overall I am very happy with my purchase, I would recommend the Honda Civic SiR to anyone....
Read full reviewWritten on: 10/05/2002
The Honda Civic SIR only makes the Civic more customiziable than it already is. People complaining about headroom, do what I did, swap in a pair of Del Sol seats. I have no problem with headroom now, and I'm 6". With intake, exhaust, and a VAFC to control VTEC, youll be able to take out pretty much all 4 cylinders and some 6cyls. Add turbo or a blower and kiss those V8's goodbye as well. Only problem is the cupholders...like everyone else said you can't put c*** in them, but, that's why my V-AFC's...
Read full reviewWritten on: 10/05/2002
If you read my review on the SiR, you would see that I agree about the things you have said for the most part, but although the manual and dealerships state that the car must run on premium gas, you can use regular or mid-grade fuel. The engines ability to adapt to the lower grade fuel is good, but obviously you will notice a power drop if you are aware of your civics performance. Just a little tip in case you weren't aware. Personally, I've used the lower grade fuel (twice), and although I saved a buck or two, I just couldn't look at myself in the mirror and say that it was worth it. Stick to the premium, It's not worth the savings to go down a level. Kevin Moore
Written on: 07/05/2002
All i have to say is that i'm absolutely in love with the Honda Civic SiR. I have a 1999 model and it's just awesome. I don't really find a problem with the first gear's torque... mainly because my car before this one was a 1990 Honda Civic HB DX. The only thing that I do not like about the car is the cup holders that are really meant for holding pretty much NOTHING. That's really the only flaw I see with the car. It's just an amazing experience when you hear the engine roar when u drop the hammer...
Read full reviewWritten on: 10/05/2002
I'm pretty sure if you check all the other reviews on the SiR, including mine, the cupholders seem to be a consistent complaint with us SiR owners. Please read my review and comment on it as feedback between Sir owners or civic owners in general is good. There are some other things I'd like to mention but I'm tight for time. Later, Kevin Moore.
Written on: 15/11/2002
The cup holders do suck, but my 99 sir will go a serious 220km and just be screamin. Love it and will never sell it.
Mods- intake and exhaust
Written on: 18/04/2002
The Honda Civic SIR has an awesome engine, I love the sound when the vtec kicks in and to see the other car you are racing with getting really small in you mirror. The interior space was pretty impressive, I had a tiburon before so for those who said that there is not enough space in that car, go try the tiburon and you will understand.
One thing is those cupolder, they should just not exist so that I can't have the feeling that I can put something in theme, anyway, I love the car and I trully...
Written on: 19/09/2002
I own an 00' SIR, this car is simply amazing. Not only is it quick, and the engines sounds like a cheap Ferrari, but it goes around corners like its on rails and stop on a dime.
Written on: 23/10/2002
I saw a Civic Si-R for sale in my town a few days ago and I absolutely fell in love with it. I wanted to buy it, but there was one problem--it was already tricked out. I feel its more fun to trick it out yourself.
Written on: 06/04/2002
The Honda Civic SiR is a nice looking car with sufficient power from a 1.6. Full of aftermarket parts for modifications. ...
Read full reviewWritten on: 06/04/2002
The Honda Civic SiR is a nice looking car with sufficient power from a 1.6. Full of aftermarket parts for modifications. ...
Read full reviewWritten on: 28/02/2002
I am thinking about trading in my 2000 Honda Civic SI for a 2001 Acura Integra type R. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. ...
Read full reviewWritten on: 18/04/2002
If you read the review that I had on the Si, you will see that I agree the low end torque off the line is insufficient but when the V-tec kicks in, it's very responsive. But in reply to you considering a change to a Integra Type-R: The Integra Type-R is a quick car. 195hp, and I believe 155 torque. But if you like the civic Si, for less than it would cost you to buy the integra, you can do some engine mods to the civic and get better results, because the car weighs less than the integra. A turbo-charger and a Comp-Tech catback exhaust would increase your horsepower and low end torque. And probably for less than what you would pay for the integra. And because the civic weighs less, it would definitly be quicker. If you want any more ideas, just reply to this message. Good luck!!!
Written on: 22/04/2002
To Masters: Another way to increase your output of the Si engine would be to increase your engine compresion to that of the Integra type R, which I believe is 12:1. Or, you could shorten your gear ratios, which would give your car more low end torque and would change the powerband of your civic to allow you to reach max torque and horsepower at lower rpm's. If you're not sure how to do these mods or what exactly is involved, just check with your local Honda dealer and with a local shop that does import modifications. But these two items would definitly help and would be considerably cheaper than a supercharger or turbo install. Respond if you have any other questions.
Written on: 21/05/2002
Masters.... I replied to your e-mail inquiring about modifications and how to go about them. I responded to all of your questions and I hope they give you all your answers. I mistakenly responded to your questions on my review site. So, if you go to the honda Sir site and read my review, you will see all the info I meant to pass on to you. Good luck!!!!
Written on: 20/03/2003
Although the Integra Type R is dam fast...I've taken my SIR and removed the AC unit and plumbing and removed all the insulation i can find and I'm neck and neck with a buddy that has a 99 Type R with racing pullys, cold air and headers......The only thing about the Type R thats better is the motor.....you can always do weight reduction to you're SIR and still have the same weight to power ratio that the Type R has.....plus..the SIR will still be on you're driveway in the morning.
Written on: 05/02/2002
Having had a Honda Civic SIR car for three years, it still continues to inspire an exhilirating ride once the engine jumps into the VTEC region. The low end torque is non-existent, requiring you to drop the clutch at high revs to get decent acceleration. The downside of this is that the clutch is much too soft to handle the amount of power that is output from the engine.
The interior creaks and rattles, which is very pecular being a Honda and the assumption of Honda quality. The cupholders...
Written on: 12/02/2002
Finally, someone who reviews with similar disdain on some of the items that others are apparently blind too, one's that I fully agree with as I stated in my review on the same car. The low end torque IS non-existent, and If you read my review in this section, the cupholders were something out of this world. Someone screwed up on the specs during design and accidentally put penny holders in their place. I also agree on the roof noise in colder temperatures as it gets to about -40C in the winter here. Kudos on your attention to the smaller things as well as pointing out Honda's obvious quality aspects as well. Please read my review under Kevin Moore and respond. I'm interested in what you have to say. Thanks and enjoy your civic as much as I do too.
Written on: 29/10/2002
Geeze and I thought I was the only one! I'm am very upset at the creaking roof in the colder weather. I went to Honda to get it checked out..surprisingly they said there was a bullettin on that noise..not an exact recall..but can be fixed under 3 year warranty or until you reach 60,000 KMs. Anyways I explained where I thought the noise was and they said it was closer to the window..I was like "ok sure but thats not where I hear it" so they did their little repair and you know what?..It fixed NOTHING the creak is still there and in the areas I hear most..It seemed to have gotten louder too. Honda Quailty my ass. Along with the useless cup holders where I end up spilling my drinks all the time and the rattling that occurs with an aftermarket stereo even at low volume levels. Its very depressing putting in all that money for a very good looking EXTERIOR CAR as well as the satisfactory engine compartment at STOCK level. When a basic thing like inside noise can't even be eliminated when shipped to dealer it really naffed me off. Somehow I hope HONDA READS THIS!
Written on: 20/01/2002
A Geo metro might have a good chance at beating the Honda Civic SiR off the start unless you rev it high off the line. The headroom is only sufficient if the driver is shorter than 5'6". And the cupholders are realistically only deep enough too hold a Jello pudding cup. The good points by far outweigh the bad points, but I wouldn't feel justified or honest if I didn't say that the low torque produced by this B16A engine wasn't a little disappointing to myself and other SiR owners. Anybody rating...
Read full reviewWritten on: 25/04/2002
Thanks for the reply to my question, very helpful. I've decided to keep my Civic. The Acura was nice but I have grown attached to my SI. Do you suggest any Brand names products for the mods you wrote about. I'm new at this and it sounds like you know what your doing. A couple more questions I have are what is the difference between an Honda Civic SI and an Honda Civic SiR? What do you think of the new Civic SI? What mod would you do first. My car is completly stock no mods what so ever. Thanks for your help Kevin.
Written on: 08/05/2002
Masters: Sorry about not getting back to you sooner. Some quality name brands for your car would be as follows. Comptech makes a cat-back exhaust specifically for Honda's and are chrome plated stainless steel. It has a larger mid-pipe diameter and will also increase horsepower and fuel efficiency. It will add a little growl to the car, especially when the V-tech kicks in, without giving the car too much noise also. A K&N air filter to replace the original box filter in your car will maximize the air intake to your engine and also increase your horsepower and torque slightly. New Timing gears by AEM and platinum sparkplugs will also make a slight difference. Don't forget to occasionally add a bottle of fuel injector cleaner to a full tank of gas once every 3 months or so, to prevent maximum efficiency for your engine. To increase the speed at which you reach your high rpm's, switch your original shifter to a B&N short shifter. This will reduce your shifts from 1st to 2nd and 3rd to 4th by as much as 2". Eventually look at getting new headers and shortening the ratio of your gears to allow you to hit your maximum torque and horsepower at lower rpm's. These changes should allow you to increase your output by as much as 10 to 15 H.P. and to increase your overall torque by about 6 lb/ft. add a supercharger by Vortech, a U.S. company, and you could get a whopping 272 H.P. and about 181lb/ft. of torque. But the supercharger could run you about $4000 U.S. The difference between a civic Si and a SiR is the Si is the U.S. version and the SiR is Canadian. The Canadian version is the same as the U.S. except it also has ABS brakes and heated side mirrors for our cold winters up here. The new civic Si is a honda so that's good. It has good styling and has many aftermarket parts available for it. A little less H.P. at 127, but a little more torque at lower rpm's. I'll get back to you with more later. Got to go and good luck.
<br> Kevin Moore.
Written on: 09/05/2002
Masters: The first mods you would probably do would be the exhaust system. It doesn't necessarily have to be a cat-back exhaust(which is from the catalytic converter to the tail-pipe),just from what is called the "B" pipe out to the exhaust tip. Next would be the air intake and cam gears. These three mods are some of the least expensive and will boost your H.P. by about 6-10, and your torque by about 3. You can find almost any item for a Honda civic in a few of your everyday magazines. "Honda Tuning", " SuperStreet" and "SportCompact". These three can be bought at any major book store or even a 7-11 in your neighborhood. All of these magazines have great articles and photo spreads as well. You can even find articles from past issues from their websites. Good luck!! If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask. Kevin Moore.
Written on: 09/11/2001
Civic SIR is a very tight car overall. Engine hums when the vTEC kicks in and begins to pull. Disc brakes excellent stopping power. Beautiful styling and Honda quality....
Read full reviewWritten on: 19/01/2002
In regards to the performance of the vehicle. I do agree that when the v-tec kicks in, the car pulls and growls with pleasure. But the only drawback to this engine is it's lack of torque at the go in 1st gear. While high revs produce nothing but driving fun, the torque is a bit dissapointing at start. Even worse so if you have the air conditioning on in the summer. I have owned the SiR since April of 2000. I have met several other owners of this vehicle and we all agree on the same points in this regard. That being said, I still wouldn't give up this car for anything. More than enough power and styling, that to this day, has me taking a backward glance at it everytime I walk away from it. As for practicality. I am only 5'10", but getting enough headroom for myself means putting the back of the seat in a very reclined position. Unfortunatly, I am tall in the back with average leg length. But it's a sacrifice I am more than willing to make for feeling good. The only other thing that I dislike about the car, is I'm sure, something that every person owning or reviewing the car would be sure to agree. What is up with those cup holders???? The only thing those cupholders are good for is holding extra change or a coffee cup no higher than 3 inches. Anything more than that and you'll be washing the interior of the car and your pants everytime you take a corner or change gears. And believe you me, With the V-tec, that could be everytime you get into that car. With all that being said, those are my only concerns in regards to the civic. But no matter how much you tried to convince me, you would have to pry the car keys from my cold dead hands before I give up my precious silver bulletmobile. It generates many looks and questions and is the envy of not only import lovers, but domestic as well. A beautifully designed machine. It is too bad that they only made them for two years. Without the prelude now, it probably would have been a hot seller for those who wanted the sporty look and performance, without the sportscar price. I would give performance an 8.0 to 8.5 as the torque could be better. And for practicality an 8.0 only due to my being tall in the back and for those pitiful cupholders. Please respond to my review as this is the first time I have commented on anything through the web. But it's a civic Sir, and it's my baby, so I couldn't resist. Thank-you.
Written on: 27/04/2001
toyota celica, tiburon, cougar, they are way behind !...
Read full reviewWritten on: 08/01/2002
HECK YAH ! ! ! It's all about the Honda Civic SiR. Even though I have a '02 Honda Civic I plan to give it to my lil' sis after a coupe years and try to get myself a SiR... And fix it up to the MAX...
Written on: 22/01/2002
I totally agree on the good points of the vehicle, but if you're going to give a rating on a vehicle, you must agree that even as a honda lover, very few cars are deserving of a perfect 10. Honda has obviously produced many great vehicles and probably will for a long time to come, but as much as I love my civic SiR, sometimes you look beyond the things that honda perfected and see if there are any small details that could be looked at. As I have stated in my own review, I totally agree, as would anyone else, that honda has produced a very stylish and quick and affordable sportscar in the SiR. But even something as simple as cupholders can sometimes be an important thing, and it's almost like honda was so pleased at the mechanical product and styling of the car, that they probably thought at the last minute to drop some half-assed cupholders into it. I don't mean to diss the carmakers in any way, but sometimes something simple can say alot. Also lack of torque at the start is something that I mentioned. Please read my review and respond to it. I would like anyones thoughts on my review as you would too, I'm sure. Sincerely, Kevin Moore.
Written on: 13/04/2002
honda's are rice and should be kept off the us, my supra single turbo!!! can take 'em out. stop trying to fix up family cars kid, and graduate to actual sports cars.
Written on: 06/05/2002
Chai, what are you talking about? You obviously are ignorant in terms of cars. Yes, supras are fast but civics can compete with them. All you need to do is add modifications. Also, single turbo? Why didn't you get twin turbo, tough guy?
Written on: 07/05/2002
Dr.T Thankyou for saying what all civic owners must have thought. I too, responded to Chai, but probably with a little too much poison in my response, as it did not get approved by reviewcentre. My question to Chai was, what the heck is a guy with a Supra doing surfing a site designated for civic owners. Maybe he's a touch more insecure than he realizes. A supra is obviously a faster car, but a civic weighs less. And with the proper mods, could easily compete, I agree. Maybe Chai should spend more time assessing his personality problems, and spend less time trying to impress us with his "single turbo" supra.
<br> And, yes, why don't you own a twin turbo Chai. If anyone out there owns a twin turbo Supra, please explain to him the facts of life. Civic owners surf civic sites to share information about a car we enjoy. What's your excuse?
Written on: 20/03/2003
chai.....the supra is in a different class.....you should be more worried about smoking Type R's, RX-7's and supra twin turbos....tell you what.....come up to woodbridge north of Toronto and i'll introduce you to guys that have SIR's tunned to eat cars like your's.
Written on: 11/08/2004
I have a 99 Sir. They are fun to drive and very fast. I find it easy racing against other civic cause anything under an Sir is slow
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