Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX

Iceguy.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 05/01/2003

As far as any car not being able to hang with a GSX off the line, there are plenty. But not including the Z06 and other cars in that range...I'll add that the Dodge Stealth R/T TT and the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 will light up and GSX off the line to any speed it wishes to go. Don't make the GSX into something it isn't.

64505_Eclipseowner.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 12/01/2003

Ok First off The GSX is amazing off the line and 2 out of the 3 cars you named will not launch off the line with that car. But to the guy who posted you are a Big Liar there is no way you ever ran a 7.25 or whatever you said.

68790_Catoboli.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 28/01/2003

As for 3000gt and steath being faster it's true there just a more expensive form of the eclipse gsx. They are the same car thought the 3000gt and the stealth. I believe the gsx is a lot better though it is much easier and cheaper to upgrade, not to mention cheaper to fix 550 for a headlight assembly is insane

69527_11.88Sec.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 01/02/2003

I have a gsx and go to street drags almost every weekend. I have a 16g turbo upgrade, all fuel system upgrade and a bunch of other stuff, running at least 16 psi with the turn of a knob, still get smoked by a couple aspirated civics, and as far as vr4's are concerned, if you have one that is upgraded even slightly you'll smoke a gsx. off the line or 120+ on the freeway. I'm topping out at 156 on the freeway one Friday night and got smoked by a vr4. gsx's r wicked cars, but there's only so much you can do to a 3000lb 4 cylinder!

69771_That Guy.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 02/02/2003

I agree with the GSX being one of the fastest cars off the line. Whoever said that a 3000Gt will beat it off the line all the way up is right... if you're talking stock. The 3K GT and Stealth TT both weight in around 4000 pounds, and they're hell to find parts for; long live the 2G Eclipse. And about that 7 second run, yeah... in the 1/8 mile.

70034_Iceguy.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 03/02/2003

Yes, they just have more power. At least you understand that there is no replacement for displacement. Sure, parts may be cheaper, and that's cool. The GSX is also a few hundred pounds lighter than the 3700 pound VR-4. I have a Stealth R/T, and I know they are pretty dang fast.

Franky.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 24/02/2003

I KNOW BY A FACT THAT ECLIPSE GSX AND 3000GT VR-4 ARE GREAT CAR'S. CAUSE I OWN A 1995 GSX, AND 1994 3000GT VR-4 SPYDER. ARE YOU RUNNING 7's??? OR YOU GOT A 454 CHEVY BIG BLOCK IN THEIR IN A ECLIPSE!!!!!!! I BEEN BUILDING ECLISPSE'S AND 3000GT VR-4 FOR 10 YEAR'S. IN MY ECLIPSE I DROPPED TWIN TURBO'S OF A 1992 300GT VR-4 I'M PUSHING 76 POUND'S OF BOOST. WITH 150 SHOT OF NOZ. AND I'M IN LOW 10'S. NOW THE WORLD RECORD FOR A GSX IN A 1/4 MILE IS 9.3. NOW IN MY 1994 3000GT VR-4 SPYDER I JUST DROPPED A NEW AND MODIFIED 8,000.00 DOLLAR ENGINE LAST MONTH AND I'M RUNNING LOW 7's ALL MOTOR IM GOING TO PUT 200 SHOT OF NOZ AND I SHOULD BE RUNNING 5'S. U COULD E-MAIL ME AT www.jesus_1503@yahoo.com IF U NEED AND PROOF OF WHAT I GOT

76315_Iceguy.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 28/02/2003

I doubt you run 9's in your GSX...NEVER 7's. And how much boost did you say you had? 70 + psi? Don't they have a 2.0 4 cyl? If you ran that much boost you motor would blow up.

78994_Andrew.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 11/03/2003

I have a 99 GSX. Curb weight in the vehicle is 4,100lbs and a stock 210 horse. A camaro Z28 weighs 4,200lbs and has 335 horse. I dont care how good i come off the line, my car has about $3,000 worth of mods and stock camaros still get me at the end! The car is WAYYY too heavy. But My eclipse Does ENIALTE VR-4. Ive beaten 3 already

79272_Iceguy.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 12/03/2003

I don't think ur car weighs that much. I know the Camaros weigh 3400lbs, give or take a few. The newest Camaros have the LS1 engine, they are fast as hell. It'd take a lot to hang with those. As far as you beating 3 VR-4s, it's possibe, but maybe they were automatic? I mean, ya never know. They have 320 horsepower in a 3700 pound car.

Gsx.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 23/03/2003

TO WHO EVER SAID RUNNIN IN THE 5'S UR PRETTY DUMB TO THINK U CAN ACTUALLY RUN IN THE 5'S ON 1/4 IN A VR4. AND GSX IS A GOOD CAR AND GOT A GOOD ENGINE SO FOR THE GSX HATAZ YALL NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE

82603_Iceguy.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 24/03/2003

The person that said they were running 5's was a guy that had a GSX. That's BS as we all know. You could never, EVER get 2.0 4 cylinder to EVER do that in the 1/4. I don't hate GSX's, but I do know they aren't what everyone here is making them out to be. 210 horsepower stock, right? Can probably be modded to what?...400-500 hp? Big deal, that's probably maxed out. They are a good car for what they are, but don't make them into a true sports car. The only thing halfway sporty about them is AWD. They handle like a Buick a from a 20 mph roll, they run like one, too. For all you people who think they are fast, you've never really drove a fast car. If this was ur first car, I understand, but there are plenty of faster things out there.

Boorky.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 29/05/2003

Come on. The GSX is not a Muscle Drag car. At 500hp there are drag cars that are gutted and pull in the 9s and 10s. BS on your times.
 
 And no... your GSX is not beating a VR-4 unless
 it's a stock vr-4 vs a squeezing 500horse GSX.
 Then you are comparing apples to oranges. Get a
 squeezed VR-4 with mods on the line next to you
 and good luck taking the 6-800 horses that monster
 will bring down.
 
 Stock on stock it's not even close between
 a vr-4 and gsx. I love both cars but they are
 in different classes.
 
 Now both have to bow to the lancer....
 
 oh and 70lb boost whatever guy...

102696_Iceguy.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 30/05/2003

It seems like most people actually believe this guy. I think the guy that started this post has a stock eclipse GSX, thought it took off fast, and thought he could beat anyone. Now he wants to tell everyone how great it "isn't".

Awd-Launch.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 07/06/2003

I have owned 2 mildly modded GSX's and no neither of them produced 500hp, but they were well into 350hp to the ground, and this was on a stock motor and simple bolt ons. Now, with a prepped motor, fuel system, and turbo, you can go from 400-500hp in a street driven car all the way up to David Buschur's 1200hp, 7 second 1/4 mile rear wheel drive drag Talon. Yes, the 3000GT can Make more power, but there are so few around, and they are so expensive and pain in the butt to modify, very few people do it. And no matter what car you are driving, if you dont have any skill behind the wheel, you can have as much hp as you like, and it wont do you any good. John Shepherd is ripping 9 second time slips all day long in his 91 Eagle talon, I believe 9.35 is a personal best for him in his street driven car. Bottom line, the GSX can compete with any other street car out there. Before any of you start blabbing and rattling off about DSM's, you should make sure you know a thing or two about them.

105485_Iceguy.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 09/06/2003

That guys RWD talon is no longer a talon. It's a talon body with so much other stuff on it's engine, it really can't be called a talon. Their drivetrain is weak and they lose so much horsepower through the AWD. That's why he made it RWD.

105716_Awd-Launch.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 09/06/2003

The drive line had nothing to do with it. And again, you should know more about what you are talking about. Dave Buschur made the rear wheel drive car to compete in the out law class in Sport Compact competition. As far as the motor, you are wrong again. First off "Iceguy" define "so much other stuff on its engine". His TALON is still powered by the same Mitsubishi 2.0 Liter 4G63T Turbo motor as any street Talon/Eclipse. Have the internal engine components been upgraded to stronger units? yes. Has the factory turbo been upgraded? yes. Doesnt change the fact that it is a 4G63T motor under the hood of that car. WWW.shepracing.com. is where you can learn your next lesson "iceguy". Here you will find the 9.3 second 1/4 mile Talon owned by John Shepherd. Lots of upgrades, including a rebuilt 4G63T, with turbo,fuel,engine management upgrades. It is driven on the street, and even with "So much other stuff on its engine" it is still a 2.0 Liter 4G63T motor under the hood. Keep trying Junior, you will get in someday.

111404_Lefty.'s response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 28/06/2003

So... How bout we get back to the GSX... lol

Malhavok's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 30/08/2003

500 awhp, umm yes its possible- but i doubt it. 250 Shot of nitrous,I almost fell out of my chair! 18X10" wheels will not even FIT on an eclipse, unless your talking extensive body and axle work.
 
 As far GSX Vs VR4, There are _damned_ few VR4s going fast. The block is crud, can't handle high boost, and the heads are even worse. The transmission in the VR4 makes a GSX trany look reliable. Stock for Stock the GSX will leave the VR4 off the line every time. Your talking about a car that can pull sub 2 second 60' times with $300 in mods.
 
 Yes, GSX is the cheapest car you can go fast in (aside from the 5.0 Mustang, which is if anything a tad cheaper to mod). The only thing you'll ever see get off the line faster than a GSX is a Chevy Typhoon. Corvette's can be out ran in 1/4 mile w/o even upgrading the turbo (90-94 only only).

Tottyteam's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 01/09/2003

"Stock for Stock the GSX will leave the VR4 off the line every time." My 1995 3000GT VR4 pulled 0-60mph in 4.8sec (G-Tech) when stock. What can a GSX do (curious since I recently purchased a 1995 GSX)?

Malhavok's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 04/09/2003

Well, the 2nd generation (2g) eclipse isn't quite as fast as the 1g. The 14b turbo on the 1g is good for low 13 second passes. There are even guys running mid 12's, but that isn't the most economical approach. With the T-25 you'll need upgrade the turbo to break into low 13/high 12 range. With the T-28 series of turbos out it isn't upgrading the turbo isn't such a big deal, but it does cost more.
 
 The real beauty of the car is their modability. Its an easy car to work on, and parts are pretty cheap. With "standard" mods you can run 11's and 12's with a car that still feels stock, aside from extremely loud exhaust and a heavy (2600 lb) clutch. No stript interior ultra-harsh rear springs etc.
 
 If you decide you want to go "all out" with your Eclipse, I'd really urge you to swap to a 6 bolt 1g engine. The 7-bolt (2g) engines are susceptible to crank-walk and heavier clutches only seem to increase the problem. Also, if your more into roadracing 2g eclipses haven't got much in the way of suspension set-ups. Diamond Star Specialties makes the best coil-over sleeves, but there aren't any full coil-overs for the 2g.
 
 Checkout www.dsmtuners.com and www.dsm.org.
 If you won't be doing the work yourself, I'd reccomend either Road Race Engineering www.roadraceengineering.com or www.buschurracing.com. And just so you know what you've just gotten yourself into http://www.vict0r.net/stuff/dsmlist.txt.

1995Eagletsi's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 21/09/2003

First of all people that say that the GSX and the TSI AWD can't hang with the RWD cars are full of it! I had a 1984 chevy camaro and I dropped an LT1 in it and I had it put on the Dino and it was pushing a little over 500hp at the wheels and my 1995 Talon Tsi AWD would kill it in the 1/4 mile. Don't get me wrong I love both of the cars and I would still kill it because of the Talons top end speed. But I used to hate imports and when I got the Tsi I fell in love with them so the people downing the GSX and The Talon Tsi AWD need to do some homework.

350Chevy's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 25/09/2003

can a 1992 go a 1/8 in a 4-5 second time. all this is a stock engine and transmission but new clutches and thats all.

Rob98Gsx's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 07/11/2003

Sounds like theres alot of 2fast2furious people in here. 250shot nos ha. I have a 98GSX. I bought it stock. Auto. A buddy of mine has a built 350 in an older impala, around 3800 pounds. Off the Line I eat him until third gear then he makes up ground. Yes cuz its an auto. Point being... His rough 400horse's would get eatn from stop light to stop light. But would snag me at the strip. yes apples to oranges. I've spent roughly 2g's in my car. Yeah im pushing 17psi with a clipped and ported t25 at the strip. Im pulling 13.9. I payed 11,000 for my car it had 38k. Example WS6 ramair firebird 320 horses for roughly $18g's. They pull a stock 13.4. When it comes to stop light 2 stop light. They cant Keep up with NO gsx.1gor2g when drivn to the fullest... Seriously before anymore 2furious talk arise's, understand the facts.. yeah slammed civics with a killer body kit. Slap a huge turbo on it. wow thats 2fast2furious oh dont forget the $70,000 stand alone fuel management system... Thats were at time u guys win best of show. But when it comes to the street you get eatn. Unless its at a roll. Then it evans things out. Its all about the dead stop. .......... I take any flamming back if theres a reader with a hatchback with a 4g63t swap with an awd conversion. Then I bow down 2 you :D.... and if you have a million dollars in mods with the University of Berkley backing you up and your running 5's in the quarter.... Id rather see it in a dsm They'll stay together...._________________________________________For those who turn for knowledge from a realistic source like "fastandthef" A 4g63t Is the heart of a turbo dsm. to reach those goals in the 5's besides the 1 seat fiberglass body and the HUGE +70psi turbo.... No block could ever withstand it like the DSM heart can withstand. Man my sarcasm at times can get misunderstood for an idiot who doesnt know what he's talking about.... 250-shot nos. brings you from the 7's to the 5's LOL so by the math Ill buy a geo metrol high 21's in the 1/4 buy a $3,000 nos setup capable of a 2'000shot ill be in the 5's with it.. WOW robshaver@phayze.com Email if you would like to share opinions about anything car related... Even the NOS exsperts like in the posts.

Dj Stalka's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 17/11/2003

First off, and there's no disputing this, the gsx and the vr-4 need to both bow to the evo. Here in Britain Norris designs have now turned out an Evo 7 pushing well over 700 bhp. This can be seen on www.norrisdesigns.com or www.maxpower.co.uk
 
 Secondly, if you have enough money there is nothing that cannot be done. The above car uses the original evo engine which, again, is a turbocharged 4 cylinder engine. If enough money can be put into the car then there is no reason why the GSX or the VR-4 could be well up over the 500 bhp mark before nos is even considered. I've got friends who have a Rover 220 Turbo coupe. It's still front wheel drive, so come turns it gets completely trashed, but in a straight line i've seen it put 600 bhp down on the dyno, before nos. He's running 250 bhp of nos but, and this is the important bit, through a palm top controller. There's no way that kind of power can be suddenly added to a street engine. It has to be put in gradually. The point is, it can be done. I don't know whether the guy who originally posted this actually has done it, in fact i very much doubt it, and there's no way that he's getting 7's on the quarter, but with enough money it's possible to get any car to do a 10 sec 1/4.

Wiredawg1's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 11/01/2004

GSX is based off the VR4, the VR4 cost about 42000 brand new, you cannot compare the two on the street, VR4 has 320HP vs 210HP Eclipse, You insult the VR4 when you compare it to its little brother. For the people who have driven both, you know what I'm talking about when you hit that 3000RPM range, it gives you a quick lesson in the meaning of Horsepower. Hate to admit I'm kinda fed up somebody would try to compare an eclipse to a VR4. They must have been talking about the non-twin turbo 220HP 3000GT, which is not a VR4.

V8Fiero's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 13/01/2004

First off, whoever that was that said the gsx would eat a trans am(ws6 firebird) is full of themselves. Of course the first 20 feet they would take him, by maybe a car, because of good ol' AWD, but when those tires hook on the trans am ur car is done, 1/4 the gsx would hang with it, but light to light the trans am dominates, and for less than 1000.00 u can have it 4's 0-60( not 1/4!!!) lol

Lawstcawz's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 28/01/2004

Check out Hot Rod Magazine January, 2004 issue. They have a 1000hp Eagle Talon running 8.5 at around 165mph in the 1/4 mile. 500hp? BS. You people need to check your facts and learn your engines. And as to taking a lot of cars off the line? Heh... when you get up to like 500hp, you have to roll a little then punch the gas unless you want to seriuosly mess your drive train and frame up. There are not really that many upgrades for the drivetrain of these types of cars unless you have it custom made.

Mikahl's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 08/03/2004

I own a 95 3000gt dohc 225bhp and yes it's NA. I actually raced my friends stock GSX and from 0-80 he had me no more then 1 and 1/2 car length...for his weight/awd advantage.
 There's only 10 SC 3000gts in US, and 5 Single Turboed, the rest are VR4 swapped or now known as "VR2" beacuse it's still FWD. I'm adding my name to lst of single turboed this spring:) The rematch will be pretty good since I'll at least be running 210Whp running 5/6psi witha ...T25 turbo:)
 
 As far as a VR4 v GSX stock v stock 1g-3g of the 3000gt shouldn't be compared...the NA v GST is more of a race:)!! Hopefully I can meet one.

1996Gsxred's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 09/03/2004

This has nothing to do with really any of this, but I recently blew out my tranny in my 96 gsx (big suprise there) and I was just wondering what would be a good high perfomance tranny to replace it with, and where I could purchase it from. also I was wondering about how much it\'d cost my wallet. thanks

Its Non A My Bidness But's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 24/03/2004

I thought I would interject some facts into your conversation
 
 2nd Generation Eclipse 2,754lbs GSX 3,270lbs
 210hp @ 6000 RPM
 214ftlb @ 3000 RPM
 0- 60 mph in 6.4 seconds
 0-100 mph in 17 seconds
 ¼ Mile in 14.9 seconds @ 93 Mph
 
 1st Generation Eclipse 2542LBs GSX 3042lbs
 195hp @ 6000
 203ftlb @ 3000RPM
 0-60 in 6.7 seconds
 0 – 100 mph in 18 seconds
 1/4 mile in 15.1 seconds @ 91.5 Mph
 
 These are GSX times the FWD times are slower by 0.1 – 0.2
 
 1990-92 Chevrolet Camaro 3103lbs
 Three V8 choices were available those years: a 5.0-liter V8 with throttle-body fuel injection, making 170 horsepower; another 5.0-liter with port injection, rated 220 horsepower; and a 5.7-liter V8 that cranked out 230 horses (available only in the IROC-Z). Only a 4-speed automatic transmission was available for use with the 5.7-liter V8, but other engines could have either 5-speed manual shift or the optional automatic. For 1991, the Z28 took over the role of the deleted IROC Z, carrying either a 230-horsepower 5.0-liter V8 or the optional 5.7-liter, upped to 245 horsepower.
 
 A stock 1992 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 did 0- 60 in 6.7 and a ¼ mile in 15.2
 
 1991-1993 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 can accelerate 0 – 60 in 5.3 and run a ¼ mile in 13.8 with its 2,972 cc engine that produces 300 hp / 307 lb-ft and weighs 3803 lbs
 
 Conclusion The 3000GT wins Stock. As John Sheppard (8.7 ¼ mile) and other have proved you can modify the eclipse cheaply and easily to hang with most vehicles. I’ve seen many (stroked) 4G63’s built well over 700HP, but just imagine what a Frankenstein twin turbo intercooled 454 boosted at 20psi could do in the right hands.

Its Non A My Bidness But's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 25/03/2004

I figured I could share what I learned after just rebuilding my transmission. Rebuilding the transmission is the way that I would go, but I’m on the side of the hobby where I would like to do everything myself. If you’re not up to that task (I have tips at http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/509723) then the best place that I would recommend is http://www.shepracing.com/ they have built their business off of performance transmissions alone. If you purchase a transmission from a company who doesn’t specialize in building that part it could bring unwanted results. I built my own because I wanted the options of the Sheppard transmission, but I also wanted the Billet aluminum shift forks and other items as offered by http://www.turbotrix.com/parts/driveline.shtml and http://www.Drivetrain.com. The sky is the limit when you do it yourself, you will have to experiment (I would do it on paper first) with different gear ratios and parts from different sources. Call the guys at different transmission shops and the above websites. Most the time upgrades are lying around the salvage yards just waiting to be assembled. Half the hobby is research! Google search is god! Hope this helps.

Zebra's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 31/03/2004

I'm about to get my 1st car. My brothers first car was a 96' Z28($12500) which he crashed and my dad got a 350z. So that is my price range ive been looking at VR4's and a couple gsx's. So I was wondering what you guys would rather have? oh and it would be like a 93' vr4 with 300hp and like a 97' gsx.

1Steclipse's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 13/04/2004

I just recently bought a 1992 Mitsubishi Eclipse
 GSX Turbo.And put in an engine from a 1994 GSX Turbo
 all stock,so my question is how well do these cars handle? And will this car be reliable and fast? I'm still waiting on my car to get out of the shop, and this is my first Eclipse. How about some feedback from some of you.....Please. I want to know the highs and lows.Thanks......

Its Non A My Bidness But's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 14/04/2004

I felt obligated to answer. Once again the issue is relative to what ever you are comparing it to. You’re not going to out perform a 2005 BMW M5 in a 1993 Mitsubishi, but it’s definitely a quality car for the money. I listen to the rally racers on this subject because they beat the rubbish out their cars. The first generation Diamond Star Motor all wheel drive vehicles are considered some of the highest quality among the rally racing community for handling and reliability. (I say some of the best because if I said THE best all the WRX guys would come to my house in the middle of the night and awaken me from my sleep by hanging me from my nipples.) The Eclipses, Talons and Lasers have been called the best in their class when they are equipped with the AWD system. The system only makes the E.T.’s about 0.1 – 0.2 faster, but the AWD really improves handling. The major item that you will notice with all wheel drive is the elimination of torque steer when you accelerate hard from a dead stop, but potential buyers should also consider the other changes in these cars. As we know the 1992 Mitsubishi Eclipse received minor cosmetic changes. The pop-up headlights were replaced by fixed aerodynamic units and some other things were done to improve the aerodynamics such as a new front air dam and trim accents in back. The most important change of that year probably was the addition of a four bolt rear differential that could support more power which added strength and reliability to the car. Antilock breaks where available on the eclipses prior to 1992 as an option. If you’re GSX has an antilock breaking system it will improve your handling and breaking. Antilock breaks became standard in the years after and would not be hard to convert a 92 if it didn’t have this option. A limited-slip differential became standard on the GSX in 1991, but the LSD required the designers to forfeit the antilock brakes on the models that came with the LSD up until 1993. I haven’t seen any antilock brake/limited slip differential combo (stock) prior to 1993 when it became standard on the GSX rather than optional. A road test evaluation that was done on the car from http://www.consumerguide.com/ said “neither the base unit nor the GS equipped with the 92-horsepower 1.8-liter have enough low-speed muscle to be satisfying with the automatic transmission. However, when paired with the manual, these are fine for budget-minded sports-car lovers. The DOHC version is much quicker in traffic and more responsive to the throttle. Both the GS Turbo and GSX are faster still, but the front-drive GS Turbo suffers from very noticeable torque steer, which causes us to prefer the GSX, which spreads the abundant power evenly between all four wheels. The all-wheel-drive setup gives the GSX outstanding grip, making it the best-handling sports car in its class. While we appreciate the antilock brakes provided on the GSX, we wish Mitsubishi could provide them as an option on all models.” The ride quality is really enjoyable I compare my 1990 FWD to my 2003 Cavalier and the DSM with 140,000 miles has less road noise than the Cavalier with 60,000. The reliability of the car is high-quality, especially if you just put a rebuilt 94 motor in it. The 4G63 motor is one of the strongest out 4 cylinders you will find. With basic preventive maintenance who knows how far it will go. Most of us modify the car before we ever outlive the actual “stock” reliability. I had a 1.8L GS that had 190,000 stock miles on it, and still ran when I sold it. The engine in my daily driver FWD turbo currently is closing in on 150,000 miles and I’m taking it to the track in a couple weeks (just to see what will break). I haven’t raced it since 130,000 but it still ran a 13.8 on the stock motor (stock boost!). I replaced the original transmission after 130,000. (Yeah do the math, I killed it at the track), the radiator, hoses, thermostat at 140,000. Let’s just say for reliability purposes I have replaced several components after 100,000 miles – to include the ones listed above and the axles, breaks, exhaust, ect. Basically to answer your question the car is extremely reliable and handles well. The ride will get slightly choppy on those who choose to go with firmer suspensions and larger tires, and any car will break if you modify it to its limits, but as a stock car you have really gotten good value for your money.
 
 The lows:
 Manual transmissions - the shifter does not move smoothly between gears. Mitsubishi recommends a bottle of friction modifier added to the oil through the speedometer gear opening, but their has been many cures attempted. (1990-92)
 
 Vibration at idle is probably due to the upper radiator mounting posts not being centered in the mounting brackets. (1990-94)
 
 Back seat is only good for small children
 
 The stick interferes with the operation of the radio
 
 Boost gauge is not always accurate
 
 Nobody in a Honda will be your friend! =P

1Steclipse's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 15/04/2004

Thanks for the feedback I appreciate it a lot, but I just found out that it is the FWD GS model with the 2.0 DOHC w/Turbo. And in any matter I like it a lot even though I can't drive it till Saturday :(
 But still thanks again. Oh,and the motor I put in was used with about 140000k on it but,it had 165
 lbs.on the comp.test per cylinder and doesn't smoke or hesitate at all.I'll probably rebuild her when I can afford to and also have the time:)
 But for now I hope she takes care of me, I know I will take care of her...........

Its Non A My Bidness But's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 16/04/2004

Even if it is a FWD GS you still have purchased a quality car. I don’t know if a used motor with 140,000 miles is the best platform for you to start building a street racer. Heat and age has changed the metallurgy of many of the internal parts that will usually function fine under normal operation, but more than likely will fail when you put them under any type of upgraded stress. My suggestion to you would be (if you have the resources) find another car to build if you are relying on that Eclipse for daily transportation. You can find one cheaply and easily. With the money you might spend on a Brusher Racing turbo back exhaust you could probably find another 1G project car. If you insist on building the daily driver there are a number of assets at your disposal that have information about the 4G63. One of the most comprehensive collections of links that I can find for the car is located at http://www.automotive-links.com/mak/mit/dsm.htm. I am recommending that you do a lot of reading, and self education because (forgive me if I’m wrong) it sounds as though you are a novice who lacks the practical experience and knowledge that comes with working on the DSM. I’m not trying to “judge” you, and I definitely don’t want this review to turn into a bunch of hate posts so please don’t take offence. I’m sure you acquired the principles and skills it takes to work mechanically, but when you enter the world of the DSMer you are exploring a different breed. A DSMer is not the enthusiast that takes their car to the local import performance shop to have some colorful shiny bolt on accessory attached to the chromed out engine and a lot of go fast and furious aerodynamics attached to the body. A DSMer is the guy who knows his compression ratios, bore lengths, stroke distance, cam durations, ect. My point is that the DSMer is a do-it-yourselfer and thanks to the ones before us all the information we need to upgrade our car - break it – spend all weekend fixing it – break it – spend 3 days troubleshooting – fix it – break it – get drunk – fix it hung over – and continue the endless cycle has been posted on the internet and is waiting for future DSMer’s. If help is ever needed there is a whole eclipse community out there just waiting to answer questions. Even feel free to contact me through the website I have constructed on Car Domain. http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/509723/1. Eventually I hope to make a DSM reference website out of this with my own domain. It’s in the works with a web designer friend of mine. I’m trying to model if off of the All Par (Mopar) website http://www.allpar.com/ if you have never visited the All Par website it would be an excellent place to learn about turbo charged 4 cylinders, the 4G63, the history of the DSM and a bunch of other great stuff.

1Steclipse's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 21/04/2004

I do thank you very much for your input on my car and I will check out more info. I have been working on cars for about 20yrs. but, only as a helper or to do minor work. I've done motor swaps on a lot of older cars and trucks but not on the newer models. So,yes I do need to look into more info. on all the deminsions and others.
 And no I don't take any offense at all. I do want to learn more about building a nice ride. The way it should be. I'm only 27yrs. old so, I have time to learn more....LOL. But anyway, thanks again for your input. I do have a question about my turbo though. I bought a used turbo and installed it. And when I drove it that same day it smoked so bad it looked like a smoke-screen,like James Bond style. But,today when I drove it, it didn't smoke at all. It had used a quarter and a half yesterday and today I filled it back up. And it hasn't used any since. A friend of mine said that the turbo had probably sat for a while and the seals in it where most likely hard as a rock and when the oil ran through it so much, the oil softened the seals and it sealed itself back up. What do you think? And do you think it will last or not? If not do you know where I can get a turbo for dirt cheap? Thanks again:Ben

Its Non A My Bidness But's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 21/04/2004

Hey Ben nice meeting you, I’m Greg. Just a few questions I have about your situation. Is this the first time you have operated the engine? Or is it just the first time you ran the engine with the turbo. Can you still hear your turbo whining when you accelerate? What color is the smoke? Is the turbo making any kind of odd noise? Does the engine lack power or have low boost? Is there any visual sign of oil leaking? (Maybe you have to take it to a car wash and degrease it before you can determine this for small oil leaks) It is possible that you could have run into a number of conditions. The most ideal scenario where you would have excessive smoke could be related to a plugged crankcase breather valve where it can just be replace or clean as needed. Of course if the smoke was white you have (had) a water problem some place. If you have black smoke and have never started up the engine before (have never seen the black smoke) it could be related to a number of things such as leaking valve guide seals, clogged air filter element, an obstruction some place such as in an air intake duct to turbo compressor, or in the air outlet duct from compressor to intake manifold maybe even in the intake manifold. In those situations you would just have to replace the faulty components according to the engine manufacturer’s recommendations or remove blockage and restore damaged parts to the specifications as required by the engine manual. It is also possible that you could have an air leak some place in the duct that goes from the compressor to the (intercooler) intake manifold or an air leak at intake manifold to engine joint. In that situation you would just have to replace the faulty gaskets or tighten down the fasteners. Use a spray bottle of water to find air leaks. The black smoke could have also been caused by an obstacle in exhaust manifold, system, muffler or exhaust stack that burned away after temperatures got hot enough. Black smoke can also be caused by gas leaks in the exhaust manifold to engine joint, gas leaks in turbine inlet to exhaust manifold joint, or a fuel injection pump and fuel injectors that have been incorrectly adjusted. You could easily correct leaks by replacing seals or securing attachments to the torque specifications that are required. If the smoke was blue then you could consider your friends analysis, but you also might also want to consider looking for a clogged air filter element, an obstructed air intake duct to turbo compressor, or obstructions in exhaust manifold, turbo oil drain line and engine crankcase vent. If any hindrances are found then you can refer to engine manufacturers manual & remove the cause of the problem. Blue smoke has also been related to air leaks in the duct work that goes from the compressor to intake manifold, or air leaks at intake manifold to engine joint. Again you would just have to replace gaskets or tighten fasteners as required. The turbo center housing could have contained sludge or caked on debris that burned off. These in rare cases could possibly reform and cause trouble in the future. I have had personal experience with this, and it burnt up a turbo to the point where it was not repairable. If you are experiencing this change engine oil & oil filter, overhaul or replace turbo as required. When ever you remove and reinstall the turbo run the car for a second and change the oil before you do any driving. This is just an inexpensive precaution that will insure the longevity of your turbo. You also could have had dirt caked on the compressor wheel and/or diffuser vanes this can be cleaned off using a non-caustic cleaner and soft brush. I’m sure you know from dealing with older engines that internal engine problems such as pistons, valves, worn engine piston rings or liners even blow-by can cause blue smoke. If the smoke occurred at the first time you operated the engine then you might consider looking for an internal engine problem. If at last you determine that you have a damaged turbocharger you should analyze the failed turbocharger, find and correct cause of failure, and overhaul or replace turbocharger as required. With reference to your friends analysis the TD05H (stock turbo) could have had a seal failure. I’m thinking back to the last time I had one apart, and it doesn’t seem likely, because I’m only remembering one seal. I have never seen a seal failure, but that doesn’t make it impossible. Yeah, I guess it would only take one seal to fail. To answer your next question I would suggest picking up a turbo from a local salvage yard. I purchased one three years ago ($150.00) never rebuilt it, and It’s still pushed me through a 13.8 ¼ mile. Actually the car is now a daily driver, so I don’t race it anymore, but the turbo is still fully functional. You can inspect the turbo before the yard mechanic removes it from the car by making sure it spins and then checking the play in the shaft. Usually an import salvage yard will have more then one turbo car to choose from thanks to some 16-year old kids that want to be Richard Petty. After the turbo is removed check the wastegate hole for cracks and alignment. I’m sure you know about checking the exhaust accessories for cracks and damage. If you decide to rebuild the turbo (I think it’s a fun job) then look for online tips http://www.ecanfix.com/~mdhamilton/index.shtml forced performance (www.forcedperformance.net) sells rebuild kits for $100.00. You also have the option of buying the center housing completely assembled and using your compressor and exhaust housings. You also have the option of sending the turbo in and having it rebuilt. There are different levels of rebuilding again its all research. Don’t be in a hurry to put it back together! Do some porting (no fear!) and while you have it apart you might as well try to upgrade to a 95 or better exhaust manifold. I also received one from of these from a local salvage yard. You can see the difference on my webpage http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/509723/8. They sell online for around $225.00, but I bought a perfectly good one for $100.00. Unfortunately for you I can type pretty fast, and you might start regretting the reading that you have to do when you ask me questions, but I hope this gives you more areas to think about and some how helps.

156745_Lilflip006's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 26/05/2004

You kids are all not thinking right... the vr-4 and the stealth rt twin turbo were both awd so the fact is they might weigh more but there traction is the same.. they pull of the line with the same traction only the vr-4 and the stealth have 315 horses and run a 5.4(approx.) 0-60. check your stats in car and driver or a proper car site with that type of information. They run mid 13`s on the quarter and a good gsx with no mods with a PROFESSIONAL driver runs low 15's .. there isn't a comparision. And to the kid who runs his so called 5's ur a jackass pro street funnies run 5's. And the fastest you could possibly get a gsx would be mid 12's never any more unless you completely changed the car. And another thing, to the kid who has a twin turbo inline 4 gsx. That's odd, were did you put the other turbo at, considering its not a v block and you only have one exaust manifold to hook a turbo up to. Did you possibly find a way to splice your header pipes that no other person on this planet has been able to do. I think not. If you use common sence most of the things you guys have said in here don't make sense. I have been a mechanic and car enthusiast my whole life and you guys baffle me with either the art of lying or the art of complete ignorance.

159075_Keithersgsx2003's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 17/06/2004

i gotta give props to zebra i own a 95 gsx that is getting stroked out. I am putting in the 264 intake and the 272 exhaust camshafts and i am forging and boring out as much of the engine as i can. This car is gonna eat in about 2 weeks but if you turbo out any 454 pushing 20 psi with the right internals that is race ready you would have a hell of a time keeping up with it.
 Another thing is that all of these people talk about getting huge a#@ turbos dont say anything about the internals which is extremely important expecially if your running nitrous oxide. Another important factor is upgrading your 2nd gen crankshaft if your running high hp cuz if your crankshaft messes up you got major problems. best way to eliminate that problem as i have seen maybe someone can tell me different though is stroking out your 2nd gen 4g63. Slowboy racing makes a good kit and their somewhat cheap.

Vr4 Galant's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 03/07/2004

One thing I must say is that Mitsubishi is an excellent maker of heavy cars. The 3000GT SL and other basic versions, are almost a joke that they are FWD. I own a Galant Vr-4 which is nearly stock with adjustable shocks and a Japanese 4G63 Galant RS motor. Exhaust and k & n filter are the the usual. I am running 12.46 in the 1320 at 110mph with a 60' time of 1.72 and for about $5500 total for car, new engine, exhaust, and gauges; no one in town can touch the four door family sedan that can light all four tires like matches.

Neperiael's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 19/07/2004

i'm not an eclipse fanatic i just own one but i have a question for everyone my eclipse jumped time 3 months ago and i fixed it myself. i'm a female but i'm pretty handy witha wrench and now it seems to have jumped time again whats wrong? or whats is it when youre driving and the car just cuts off the engine spins fast but wont crank?

Jedidsm's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 24/08/2004

To the girl who timed her own car, that's awesome! Is your dsm a dohc motor? You have to make sure you have the belt tension right so that it won't jump teeth. If it did jump and the car won't start you may have bent the valves....not good! If it is a 1.8 litre you just may need to time it again and get the tension right. Good luck....as for the 500 hp yeah right!!!! And for the guy who said he has a 16g and is still being beat by civics...man either your a sucky wrencher or the people who are installing these upgrades for you suck! There is no way a normally aspirated Honda is going to beat a turbo charged Eclipse even with the stock turbo! I'll walk a Civic even if it has every mod on this earth and I'm all stock! As for the 3000gt comments they don't launch as hard as an Eclipse and I can testify to that, a friend of mine has a 99 vr4 dynoed in texas at 450hp and it doesn't launch harder that an Eclipse. However, it will beat the poo out of one!!! Oh yeah and for the 20mph roll if your standard your gone thats an Eclipses strongest poing!!!!

Neperiael's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 07/09/2004

HI JEDIDSM thanks i have a 2.0 dohc no bent valves just a major headache repairing ended up having to replace the tensioner as well as the belts but its running like a champ now. anyone interested in buying an eclipse??? i personally am a chevy fanatic love my caprice classics i have 2 now fresh paint and rims on one and working on the other. but i do have the eclipse for sale any reasonable offer not refused black with brown interior comes withdetachable face blaup cd player and 600 watt kenwood amp already tinted windows new tires low profile. email me at neperiael@yahoo.com if interested

Lsds4Life's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 09/09/2004

The gsx is a good car and decently fast the vr4 is okay but it is ugly the car that you all must bow down to is the GMC typhoon or cyclone it would kill any of ur ricers anywhere anytime. As for stock they run a 4.8 60 and a 13.6 1/4 add a thousand dollars worth off upgrades and it will run low 12's add a turbo upgrade and u will get low 11's yes believe it. and it is an SUV, if you were wondering it has a 4.3L with intercooled turbo running about 15 psi stock.

171990_3000Gt's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 27/09/2004

I recenttly went to a dealership and was going to buy a gst then he told me he was getting a vr4 so i held off then a week later he got a gsx now I have a 3000gt but its only the SL 3L 6CL DOHC 225hp always wanted vr4 I know how expensive they are and I know that the eclipse is much better on gas however I still dont know what I want and they cost the same price dont know what to do. What do you think is over all the better car? - keep in mind price power and style.

Tottyteam's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 30/10/2004

3000GT... What year models of the GSX and VR4 are you looking at? I have a 1995 GSX (auto) and a 1995 VR4. For me there is no comparison but it depends on what you want to do with the car. If mods are on your list the GSX will be much cheaper. My pick is the VR4.

Rickybobby's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 12/02/2008

i don't know what some of these people are saying when they say that their little 4 cylinder cars are doing low 6's an 5's on the 1/4 mile thats bs your trying to tell me u can keep up pretty well with a professional dragster specially made for the strip with 100s of thousands of dollars invested?

351432_Ricer X's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 13/03/2008

i need a 1997 gsx transmission automatic . where do i get one ?

356439_Jeshvr4's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 03/04/2008

hey i have a 1992 mitsubishi galant vr4 (not the 3000gt vr4). it has the stock 4g63t engine and i was wondering how much i could turn the boost up to without having to worry about blowing the motor? i have it at 14-15psi (cheap boost gauge so it might b wrong) and i'm running unleaded 87octane. i'm getting a laptop with datalogger software so i can make sure the engine doesn't knock, any ideas?

Eclipsegsx92's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 21/10/2008

For the person saying you cant twin turbo a gsx, I have a twin turbo set up on my car. Just like the inline 6 supra's have... Its a turbo then another turbo ran off the first one, its also step sized to eliminate turbo-lag, this and some other fairly simple mods I'm running mid 11's. on 20psi.

91Stealth3Si's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 31/10/2009

hey i have a 91 dodge stealth (non turbo) and it pushes 250 with just a cat delete and new 3' pipe through the stock muffler, and an intake..
 and i've raced a 99 eclipse gsx thats got a new turbo and a exhaust.(both are 5 speeds) And from the start he took off a little faster but at about 2nd gear in my car blew him away! his eclipse has about 300AWHP. so idk what you're talking about with the REALLY FAST ECLIPSE!?
 i mean ya they are pretty quick and handle decent with the stock setup but i find it hard to beleive that its THAT FAST...
 my car is front wheel drive and i still stomp all over awd cars!

Switchblade802's response to Pendu.'s Review

Written on: 15/07/2010

i own a 97 gsx nothing special mostly stock but im building a new motor i was reading this review and there is so many people talkin some rubbish as far as the vr4 an gsx both cars are heavy an as far as them gettin in the 5s in a 1/4mile unless those cars have a shit ton of upgrades panels replaced wit carbon fiber an r not street legal... basically if u dont have a GSX or VR4 that is a funny car ur not hittin 5s it takes alot of money an extensive tuning 2 hit numbers like that. the top fuel cars r runnin numbers like that an spend thousands of dollars everytime they go down the track 2 get them so if ur goin that fast ur not driving a GSX or VR4

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