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“Having craved for a Mini Cooper S since it's launch, I...”

★★★☆☆

written by leemondo on 24/11/2004

Having craved for a Mini Cooper S since it's launch, I finally took the plunge 3 months ago and bought a Mini Cherished Cooper S from a Mini Dealer.

The past 3 months have been the worst case of car ownership I have ever experienced. Poor cabin build quality with sqeaks and rattles, oil leak from the supercharger, humming noise at 60mph that Mini can't seem to repair under the warranty, smear marks on the passenger and driver door windows and all the Mini dealer can do is remark that 'they are characteristics of the Mini...even though the car is less than 2 years old with only 14,000 miles!!!

Glad to have rid of the thing and really disappointed with BMW's outlook on customer service!

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Samm's Response to leemondo's Review

Written on: 02/01/2005

Have you tried a Leon 225 or CTR? Very quick and well made hot hatches.

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A2Antoni's Response to leemondo's Review

Written on: 19/07/2006

I agree, had one for 14 months and am ready to leave it by the side of the highway with the keys in it.
I have humming noises too, at 60 M/PH, mine is a 2005 model, had dash ripped out and foam put it to silence the squeaks, steering vibrations no matter how many times you rotate and balance wheels, engine mount replaced (engine was too rough and sending knocking vibrations throughout car), fixed now. Had front right headlight replaced due to faulty stamp of moulding (was sticking out), steering is predictable but very rough going over bumps. My suspension started to squeak and the air condition compressor shakes the entire car including my seat, feels like a bed in cheap motel that has coin operated vibration option. To sum it up, this car is the worst car I have ever owned, and yet to have an enjoyable moment with it, but locked into a lease for another 24 months. I use the car to get to work. The longest trip was 2 hrs tops. I would never risk my life in this car on a 5 hr trip to some other city.
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<br/>Anthony

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Terri Lucrisia's Response to leemondo's Review

Written on: 27/01/2005

Wow! this is disapointing for someone interested in buying one. Did you purchase new, or used>

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“In low gears the Mini Cooper S is embarrisingly slow...”

★★☆☆☆

written by martinoneill on 02/02/2004

In low gears the Mini Cooper S is embarrisingly slow off the mark. Not what you after splashing out the cash. It is like the fuel supply is limited until the revs reach about 3500. Then it's woosh

Also the handling is poor for a racer - far too spongey and unresponsive.

I hated it and sold mine......

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Adamlondon69's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 05/02/2004

Putting reliability over performance? The car is faster than 90% of hatchbacks, but if you were looking for a performance car then you would have been better suited to buy a Porsche. Also, whilst I love my Mini Cooper S I know that they have some reliability problems (a factor which you are obviously not aware of). Spongy suspension? The Cooper S comes with sports plus suspension as standard, and if you get the Chilli pack it also comes with 17\" alloys with runflat tyres. These both give the car a stiff ride, and I have taken very tight corners at speed and am yet to feel any real body roll. If the car can be given so much acclaim and praise from organisations and motoring journalists all over the world, and yet you write such a review, then someone is wrong, and you are somewhat out numbered. All the same, I hope you are happier with your new car.

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Adamlondon69's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 02/10/2006

It’s been almost three years since I bought my Cooper S, and I’m still extremely happy with it. I’m having as much fun now with the car as when I bought it, and I would definitely recommend it to anyone who is in the market for a car of this kind. There has been a lot of banter on this review, either side of the fence, but the fact that the overwhelming majority of this has been on the positive side, just goes to prove that it is a great little car. And that’s just it; it’s a little car. People that are expecting a pure bred sports car are going to be disappointed, because it’s only a small hatchback. The fact is that it is a fun little car with more than enough voom for most, and it is well styled and hangs on to its value better than pretty much any car on sale in the UK today. If you would not consider buying one because of the foolish and unfounded negative statements that have been made on this page, then more fool you.

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Spinaltap19's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 30/09/2006

I think Martin wants a car that really feels fast to satisfy his boy racer urges.
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<br/>For me, having just stepped out of my MINI Cooper S, the best thing is that the car just drives effortlessly and doesn't feel particularly fast as you are going along. There is no drama, no tyre squealing, no high revving hysterics, just a good drive in a car that feels in the millionaire class - Madonna seems pretty happy with hers. Around a race track, I am sure that the MINI Cooper GP works, with no rear seats it is very much the business, but driving (fairly) legally on normal roads, in a safe yet fun fashion, the Cooper S is ideal.
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<br/>My only mistake was allowing my wife to drive it: I barely get a look in now, and I am relegated to driving the family MPV!

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Martinoneill's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 29/09/2006

I have spoken to many Cooper S owners now that have also found the driving experience a let down. For example, compared with other (cheaper) FWD hatches it lags behind vehicles like the Integra Type R and even the Clio Cup.
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<br/>As such, for a car billed as a drivers car it is below average for the money.
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<br/>I can understand so many people rising to defend the car - if I had just bought one and did not have much experience of other "hot" FWD cars I would do the same.

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Bill 42's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 03/08/2004

I haven't bought a Mini S yet, but I will as soon as I sell my Harley. After test driving one, it would have taken an undertaker to wipe the smile off of my face. Unlike my bike, I wouldn't get wet, cold, or hot while still being able to carry someone else plus luggage. Being a senior citizen and having sold and driven many cars, it was the most fun I've ever had behind a steering wheel. A 911 it isn't, but for me, it's the next best thing that is affordable. It's just putting fun back into getting from here to there and grinning the whole time.

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Fitz70's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 25/07/2004

I have currently just switched from a V8 5.7L 230kW Commodore to a Cooper S Works. They both spec the same 0-100 figure so I TOTALLY disagree that the Mini is slow.
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<br>I have only owned mine for 3 days yet the driving techniques used to get a Mini off the mark compared to a V8 are obviously very different. The V8 has a huge amount of torque and so putting the foot to the floor the thing responds in almost any gear. That said using a good amount of revs and getting the correct gear and the Mini goes like the clappers and handles like it's on rails (something a rear wheel drive V8 just CANNOT do!).
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<br>I just can't seem to work out what car Martin was driving....

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Mac13's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 18/07/2004

Take a drive and see for your self. I was not convinced about the car until I had a good drive and now have one on order. Forget reading about it drive it.

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159674_Johnscudder's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 22/06/2004

Hello...
<br>Well, I'm not a drag racer nor an expert on off-road type racing. I have owned Firebirds, Trans Ams, Miata's, Thunderbirds, Cadilliac's... all over the "range" of vehicles. The funnist car I've driven is the Miata. Once person said, "It goes where you point it"... which has proved true. I test road (multiple times.. almost to the irritation of the dealer!) the Mini S. I gotta admit, it's a unique car... and in great contract to my current F250 supercab diesel superduty! (grin). I'm a car person. What I did find in my driving the Mini S is that it is fun, but a bit uncomfortable on the seating... where the seating is a bit "trandelenberb" (pointed down towards the gluteous maximus) unless you crank it up a bit in height. The test vehicle I drove (over and over) had many rattles, and the last time I drove it the car pulled heavily to the right... something that the dealer also seemed surprised to find. I had just driven it 2 days prior. I first noted a bit of a rattle in the passenger door at the window, and the last time out, there seemed to be many rattles when going over a semi-bumpy road. I've also been test driving the Imprenza... spelling? It's the Subaru WRX.. with 227 HP and all wheel drive. It's about 27k compared to the 32k cooper S (they are marking up the vehicles here in the San Diego area). I've also tested the WRX STI... which has 300 HP and drives like a rocket.. and corners like my mother-in-law avoiding a family gathering (just kidding). Anyway, like I said, I'm a "car" person, and not a specialist. By trade, I'm an RN in the ER and ICU... but by night (and sometimes day)... I love to drive.. drive drive drive. With all I've heard about the mechanical tid bits that tend to eventually go wrong with the Mini's paint and other oddities, I wonder whether I'll be using that 4 year 50,000k warrenty a lot. Just my two cents. I saw a Toyota MR2 in the showroom the other day.. I'll be giving that a ride. It was only 26k on the sticker.. no mark up. Take care... John

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151097_Chris001's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 11/04/2004

I have owned my Cooper s for 12 months now and I am delighted with it. I have had better looking meatier cars but my mini is my favourite by far. It corners fantastic. It can safely overtake just about anything on a country road and in another 2 years when I swap it in I expect ill get a really good trade in on it. I didn't buy the car because I wanted a santa pod dragster I bought it because it was nippy, fairly priced, and 3 years of trouble free motoring and so far its not let me down once. This car is everything it claims to be and more.

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Spinaltap19's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 28/03/2004

I have had my MINI Cooper S for just over 12 months and have been absolutely delighted with it. Whilst it would definitely benefit from another 40 bhp, the car manages to be amazingly civilised when driven gently and a total hoot when pedal pressed to metal. My friends new Honda Civic Type R is faster but far noisier and less relaxing to drive and, of course, lacks that MINI class, history, race pedigree and sense of style. How many cars can truly upstage all of the actors in a film including the oscar-winning Charlize Theron? I raced a Cooper S (unmodified) around Croft race circuit last Summer and it was amazing: totally forgiving of any mid-corner excess, bucket loads of grip and plenty of grins from ear-to-ear. Did I mention the residuals? I'm sure Martin O'Neill got a very nice trade-in price for his MINI which will have surely given him something to smile about as he waved it good bye!

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Samm's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 17/03/2004

Sounds cool!, I love the look of the mini even if it is a bit chunky and heavy, but for the price of a 220 bhp works I just think that the rivals might out gun it.
<br>For 19k you can easily get a 275 bhp Leon Cupra R or
<br>16k the new Civic which will do 0-60 in 6.6 and you have all that money left over to sup it up and even the MK1 beat an S2000!
<br>Or for 15k you can get a Clio Cup up to the same power, and it weighs about over 250kgs less so will be faster and cheaper.
<br>Or you can probaly get a 250+bhp focus rs for 21k.
<br>I really like the MCS but there are too many people that drive it cos they think they are trendy but it just makes it less exclusive.

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Coopersworks's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 10/03/2004

I have a Mini Cooper S Works and I sold my Lotus Elise (series 2) for it.
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<br>The Mini outhandles, out-guns and out shines the Lotus on the public roads. On the track though, the Lotus would be faster!
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<br>My car has a few mods - lowered springs, induction, manifold, sports cat - Recent dyno saw it at just a touch over 220bhp.
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<br>...and I didn't buy it because of the "hype". I bought it as I'm interested in good handling, fun cars!

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Samm's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 04/03/2004

I think the mini is a fantastic car and I haven\'t driven it but against the competition I think it would have to be a clio cup or CTR. Having driven the CTR I find it hard to believe that a mini is more fun or can keep up with this car on any road it really is good. Being a 205 1.9 driver with some subtle mods I doubt the mini is as entertaining to drive or is more of a handful, probably because it is some 15 years more modern and weighs around 300-350kgs more which is a hell of a lot. I have also driven a Fiat Uno turbo 160bhp in a 900kg car and it was a riot! But the MCS works addition looks very addition if you can afford it- it\'s entering Focus RS territory with the price. Anyone driven these cars??

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Hobzy's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 03/03/2004

Hmm, just checked the MINI official website to see where it harps on about it being a 'true drivers car'. Couldnt find it. what it does go on about for the whole range is how the design makes it easy to drive in a more fun way ie quicker. In this respect it does EXACTLY what it says on the tin. Not everyone wants the back end out like Tiff Needel. Most want a predictable car that "feels" fast. Ive driven all sorts including some alfas and some of them were great drives. But none felt as surefooted as my S Works. And as for torque it has been said before, Minis old and new were meant to be revved.

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Vector625's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 02/03/2004

Let\'s talk performance. My stock \'04 MCS was clocked at 6.87 seconds 0-60mph here at the track in New Jersey. Temperature was 36F. Maybe you\'re a large person or something.
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<br>If you think the handling is spongy, then yours was a dud. Let\'s put aside the figures from Car & Driver and Road & Track that put the MINI above all other cars in slalom performance. Let\'s talk about real world experience. What are you basing your claims on? My experience on twisty river roads, traffic circles, and the one timed slalom were spectacular.
<br>-vector625

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Jim Voyles's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 02/03/2004

Mr. O’Neill, I have the right to disagree with your review of the car, before I bought my MINI I had never owned any BMW product. (I’m also a motorcyclist, favoring Honda products.) Opinions are opinions, especially where cars are concerned, but your comments on the MINI’s handling totally negate the rest of your review.

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Karjon's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 02/03/2004

Ive got a honda accord.... I took your advice and \"just took it for a test drive\" wow i didn\'t care that I was only going 15kph round a corner because \"it was so much fun\". Take the point, I\'m not saying the mini is terrible or even bad, but when mine arrived I had been led to believe it was gonna be fantastic and it wasn\'t. I prefered my old Fiat Uno T. The cooper S has been made out to be a true drivers car, which it isn\'t. Car now? gave the cooper to my wife, bought the sud off my mate, till I find something newer. Any suggestions?

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Stevedrivesamcs's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 01/03/2004

I\'d like to make a couple of comments on this review. I recently took ownership of a Mini Cooper S after driving a many number of cars in order to choose the one which was the most fun and practical to drive. The MCS handles extremly well. It has very little roll and the combination of torque, delivery and handling means although the rise is a little firm the car is quicker from point to point over anything this side of a 996 GT2/3. Although it could benefit from a little more bhp, the overall effectiveness of this car as a fun/ b-road car is excellent. As for BMW, I used to work for them and didn\'t particuarly like the company or cars, most of them not being what I\'d prefer to drive (with the exception of the E36 M3) but against those feelings I still purchased an MCS. It\'s a great buy and a fantastic car. While I respect your opinions I would disagree with your original review.

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145756_Worksgirl's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 01/03/2004

See through the 'hype'??.. I wasn't aware that they had to hype up Minis. They speak for themselves... and the S speaks the loudest. A decent driver would never call it slow off the mark.
<br>"Also the handling is poor for a racer - far too spongey and unresponsive." I'm sorry but this is blatantly untrue. I raced around Goodwood and ate race ready M3s for breakfast. The car is awesome.

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145754_Planeguy's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 01/03/2004

A. The average rating by category of the review does not accurately reflect in the overall rating. The overall rating should be about 3.5 stars, which clearly show that this guy has an agenda.
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<br>B. I agree that this guy has very little knowlege. "no torque under 3500" This is a small displacement high-rev engine, I guess if he drove and S2000 or acura nsx he would have the same complaint. It is a basic understanding of how to drive and how horsepower is developed and delivered that bugs me.
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<br>C. by the latest NADA report the cooper retains 117% of its original value after 1year and he ranks 5/10 for value, agian a clear bias
<br>http://www.mini2.com/news/news.php?id=160
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<br> I have a feeling that this guy likes american muscle cars, drives a camaro in primer and is upset that he can't handle any curves

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Bacardi's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 01/03/2004

Well get this, im not a part of BMW, infact I dislike much of there range, but the mini stands out as a great little car. The reason why its so appealing, isnt about 0-60 times, not its track times etc etc, but about FUN. I acually dont care how fast im going, so long as its fun. Take karting, its way slower than many cars, but boy is it fun. Handling may not be fit for a true race, but its a road car and has to be right in all situations. The steering is Direct and possitive, grip is well balanced and progressive. how you can say its spongy is beyond me (ooohhhh your used to driving steam engines maybe?)
<br>My Advice, forget times and figures, take it for a drive, and all of a sudden you wont care about that cos your having the best time of your life.
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<br>So what car have you got now?

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Buttons's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 01/03/2004

The Cooper S is one of the most fun cars around, oh yeah and the handling is so useless that I completely toasted a TT in mine round a series of roundabouts over the weekend! ;)

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Downpit's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 01/03/2004

MY MINI COOPER S IS FALLING TO BITS
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<br>I live in sydney but am English, couldnt wait for the car to get delivered. just like to say that whilst the car is great fun to drive, im over it being in the garage. 4 times with only 2,500 miles on the clock, 10 months old and its a death trap, steering has gone, supercharger unit dodgy, electrics gone and the interior has been a disaster. paint peeling off the steering wheel, inside door handles and the silver supports around the stereo etc. Hate to say it, I love the cars drive but with so many problems I hate to think what will realy HAPPEN when I do some serious milage.
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<br>Also other things that have been replaced are the 2 front seats, leather stitching went on one anf the mechanism went on passenger, boot lock replaced, handbrake surround came away and the breaks have been re done.

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Martinoneill's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 28/02/2004

That\'s exactly the point - I am glad another experienced driver uses this site.
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<br>It is not about the Mini Cooper S being a poor car - reliability issues aside - more that it fails to be as good as it should be. If it was a poser purchase you will be entirely satisfied.

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Adamlondon69's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 27/02/2004

Yes, that’s right Martin, I spent £18,000 on a car because Top Gear said so! In fact there was actually rather a lot of research that went into the car I chose to buy, and a lot of other people have come to the same conclusion. There are few if any other cars that generate the same cult following that the new Mini has, and this is not because of the say so of a car magazine such as Top Gear. It is quite clear from the other people that have commented on your review (and other reviews here) that your opinions are not shared by the general public. I still don’t understand what you were expecting to buy for the money, because in its class the Cooper S is at the head of the pack. If you have no further interest in this car (as appears so) then why not simply stop commenting on the subject and focus on giving great reviews on the car that you chose to replace your Mini with (which I’m sure we would be very interested in knowing). The fact that you think that everyone who has given positive reviews of the Cooper S works for BMW just goes to show the true depth of your ignorance.

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Karjon's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 26/02/2004

I agree with you martin although the cooper S is not slow (relatively of course), Most mini owners love the look and have been deluded by the marketing which has convinced them it handles great, I\'m not saying its got bad handling but its handling has come from new developments in shock absorbers and tyres rather than from inherent good design. I recently took my Cooper S to a favourite windy bit of road and although it wasn\'t terrible I was expecting a lot more, my friend brought a 1983 Alfasud ti (105 bhp) which was standard e.g. no aftermarket suspension and had it had a few more horsepower (or god forbid a supercharger) it would have eaten the mini alive. I think people go to much into bodyroll, instead take note of what enter/exit speeds of a corner are and how the car accelerates as it turns out. I would expect very little bodyroll in a 2003 car with new stiff suspension.
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<br>K. (15 yrs rally exp.)

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Olio's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 25/02/2004

I'd just like to point out to anyone who missed it - I was being sarcastic. I think the mini is great, and can't wait for mine to be delivered in April. I've driven all manner of cars myself, and although I'm not a big fan of BMW (particularly image-wise)I think the Mini is one of the most entertaining cars I've ever driven in any price bracket.

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Martinoneill's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 25/02/2004

Well if you believe without question the awards of Top Gear then you are the perfect Mini Cooper S owner. Enjoy
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<br>If you have a brain and can see through the hype - buy something else, or at least be a bit wary.
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<br>If someone reading this is actually thinking of getting one, organise a test drive and see for yourself.
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<br>The drive is not great but maybe you'll be like most people on this site and be satisfied with the looks alone.

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Adamlondon69's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 25/02/2004

OFFICIAL: Mini Cooper S 0-60 7.4 secs.
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<br>I dont know how fast a car you think you can buy for £14,600? If you are talking on the grand scheme of things, then 7.4 is slow compared to a Porsche, SL 55 AMG, Dodge Viper etc... If you are talking about the area of the market that the Mini is in (ie sub £20,000 hot-hatch) then it is one of the fastest. Its all relative. There are not many cars that are awarded 5 stars in Top Gear, but this is one of them. And I dont work for BMW, Im just a very satisfied customer.
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<br>PS:
<br>BMW X4, 4.4i V8, 286 bhp, 0-60 7.5 secs...
<br>BMW 735i, 272 bhp, 0-60 7.5 secs...
<br>AUDI A4, 3.0 V6 Sport, 217 bhp, 0-60 7.8 secs...
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<br>Mini Cooper S, 1.6, 163 bhp, 0-60 7.4 secs

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Martinoneill's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 24/02/2004

Who says a mini cooper s is slow:
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<br>Official Figures:
<br>1.6L Mini Cooper S 0-62 7.7 Seconds
<br>1 Litre Diahatsu Charade GTi 0-62 7.9 Seconds.
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<br>So you can't even beat obscure 1 litre cars from the lights.
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<br>The Cooper is slow - it's offical.

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Tabate's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 24/02/2004

The funny thing about this entire conversation is that neither of you really care about the Mini at all. The simple statement of the facts is you both hate BMW with a passion that rivals the Hatfields and Mccoy's.
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<br>Just to let you both know, yes I have ownwed many BMW's over the years as well as M-Benz, Chevrolets, Fords, Dodges and many other brands. Do I think this makes me a BMW RavBoy ... nope. I do enjoy driving them but not as much as the I currently enjoy the Mini.
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<br>I am sorry you didn't like your Mini but as I stated before they are not for everyone. To your fellow poster ... I hope you only buy things writers and reviews say you can. To bad you didn't listen to their wisdom a few years ago and not wasted your money on the PC you wrote your reply on.
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<br>P.S> Sorry about the Accord crack .. I meant to say Civic

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Martinoneill's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 24/02/2004

Thanks for the comments:
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<br>I know how to drive, probably more than you and I certainly don\'t own a Honda.

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Olio's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 24/02/2004

Perhaps you should volunteer to help BMW develop the next one. With someone of your experience on their team it's bound to be a \much greater success than the critically hammered current Cooper S.

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Tabate's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 19/02/2004

I\'m sure you you are only expressing your opinion about your own personal experiences. I\'m only curious about a few things that you have written ....
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<br>1. No torque, well I\'ve driven a lot of cars and having said that. Whatever made you think a car with 1600 CC and 8.5:1 compression was going to have any torque? The supercharger does add some bottom end but if you were expecting Rat motor style torque you were dreaming. These cars love to be spun, the tighter the better. I suppose you might have been disgruntalled driving a 69\' Z/28 as well they had about the same driving style requirement.
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<br>2. The soft handling? What is your daily driver a skateboard?. Admittedly
<br>these cars are not for everyone and you must be one of the those people.
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<br>I hope the person you sold your mini to knows how to drive it and I hope you enjoy your Honda Accord.

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Martinoneill's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 17/02/2004

Well what can I say - spot the BMW staff using the site!

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Jim Voyles's Response to martinoneill's Review

Written on: 13/02/2004

If you had a MINI-Cooper S, you just don\'t know what to expect from your car. I once talked to a guy with a SAAB 9-3 who told me it was a lousy winter car. I owned one at the time, and it came with 55 series performance tires (Michelin Pilots). He seemed to be under the impression that he could drive it in deep snow with those tires! Are you that kind of car owner (I hesitate to use the word driver)?

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