Webley Patriot Reviews
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★★★★★
“Mine is a .25 cal Beeman Kodiak (re-badged Webley...”
Written on: 12/04/2009 by Vulcanator (13 reviews written)
Mine is a .25 cal Beeman Kodiak (re-badged Webley Patriot) that I purchased used a couple of weeks ago. Initial impressions are the bluing, a lustrous quality that easily surpasses my Weihrauchs! The woodwork that incorporates a screw for a sling swivel, a chequered pistol grip with white spacers and a rubber butt plate. The stock is nicely finished and is of handsome proportions and pleasing to the eye. The fit and finish overall is superb. The rifle is also equipped with open sights that... (read more)
★★★★★
“Opening the box of my Webley Patriot - it all reeked...”
Written on: 25/02/2009 by Tetrol (1 review written)
Opening the box of my Webley Patriot - it all reeked of quality - the finish, bluing etc was perfect. The varius metal working surfaces had a very fine lubricant applied, not even enough to smear with a finger, but there all the same. I think it is a heavy beast, but so am I - 193cm and 111kg. I fitted the scope before trying the rifle, as I figured I would do so in any event later.
While doing so , I tightened the accessible screws down, some of which seemed to me to have some half turn...
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★★☆☆☆
“A total waste of money! And the bother of an FAC....”
Written on: 29/11/2008 by candid opinion
A total waste of money! And the bother of an FAC. Horrific recoil and accuracy is poor. Those that write here should compare it to even the cheapest .22 rimfire rifle which will outshoot it in every aspect.
I absolutely hate to think what that recoil is doing to that expensive telescopic sight you've fitted. So called "real" guns - and I've shot them all from .22 rimfire to .270 to .470 don't punch you in the face when the spring is released like on the Patriot.
My advice? I'd sooner go two...
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Vulcanator's Response to 421394_candid opinion's Review
Written on: 12/04/2009
Couldn't disagree more with your scathing assessment of this rifle. Like you I've handled many firearms and while the Patriot recoil is greater than a .22LR is it not by any means punishing. In the Accuracy dept. mine is excellent, 5 shot 5/8" groups ctc, 25 yds open sights-if that is considered inaccurate I would like to know what your standards are!
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★★★★★
“The Webley Patriot is a very powerful air rifle. I...”
Written on: 12/10/2008
The Webley Patriot is a very powerful air rifle. I really like the recoil, it makes it feel like a real gun. It is very loud and also very heavy but still a great rifle. I would recommend this rifle to any adult how is looking to hunt small game such as rabbits and magpies. (read more)
★★★★☆
“You have to have another guns since this gun is...”
Written on: 21/05/2008
You have to have another guns since this gun is recommended to be used only occasionally for large small games and birds since it is heavy and very powerful too. I have HW80 in .22 , a Diana model 52 , webley excel in .22, HW27 in .177 and a webley Omega in .177. (read more)
★★☆☆☆
“Bought this rifle new in April, Webley have made a few...”
Written on: 04/05/2008 by Vulcanator (13 reviews written)
Bought this rifle new in April, Webley have made a few changes. "Tru glo" sights which are of plastic construction, the foresight is actually pressed onto the muzzle unlike the old metal sights, so if you drop the gun and break the sight -oh dear!
The stock is subtly redesigned, the wood is of good quality and the fit to the metalwork is excellent. The pistol grip no longer has the white spacer and end cap. The stock screws at the fore-end are horizontal and are larger than previous models,...
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★★★★★
“Those that complain that this gun is too hard to cock,...”
Written on: 02/05/2008 by skylineman
Those that complain that this gun is too hard to cock, or is too heavy or is inaccurate are either a bunch of kids or are just not right. I mean, seriously, even my girlfriend can cock this gun 30 or so times before she gets tired and she is only 160 cm tall and weigh 50 kg! It's all about the technique people. Think leverage.
And the weight? C'mon, 9 odd pounds aint heavy at all. If you're complaining that it's too heavy - find something else lighter like a plastic gun or water pistol. This...
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Steve Johnson's Response to 363806_skylineman's Review
Written on: 25/04/2010
I couldn't agree with you more, springer air gunning is a technique, once mastered, or just used to it. You can shoot quite well, and you find ways to leverage your body to cock it. Once you get used to these you can shoot quite effectively and a lot cheaper that rimfire.
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Tonymcloone's Response to 363806_skylineman's Review
Written on: 07/08/2012
I have had Webley air rifles all my life and i totally agree with you,,,,,I fire nothing but Webleys,When i was in England i had the 12lb legal rifles and found they did the job they were intended to do,,,,,Shoot rabbits and do a bit of target practice,,,Rabbits at say 20-40 yards are killable with a 12lb none FAC rifle,,, over 40 yards and all your doing is causing the animal pain and maybe even a slow painful death,,,,
Now comes to the Webley Patriot and i find that it is the master of all spring air rifles,,, I own a Birmingham made Patriot .22 and its firing in at around 33lb with Accu-pells hollow point pellets,,,accuracy is coming in at 5/8 grouping at 40yards with tasco 3-9 sight,,, loctite and held in place well,,,It does need the odd clean and retighten every now and then but i always did this with every rifle i ever owned,,, I have this rifle a year now and fired around 4,000 rounds with it,,,,all accurate killing shots and when it hits a rabbit, bird, pigeon, pheasant, duck or magpie it does so with tremendous force and one shot always does the job to instantly kill pray,,,yes its a beast of a gun and yes its a little heavier than most,,, but people must understand,,, this rifle is not for the faint hearted or someone thinking that its a rifle for plinking,,,This rifle is a killing machine and i would recommend to anyone who are wanting to buy a rifle with a limited budget but wanting sheer power and accuracy to buy the British made Webley patriot,,The Turkish Hassan models just aint the same for reliability and the power is a lot less too,,, Maximum power on the Hassans are about 25lb,, Tip,,,You can tell a British made Webley Patriot as it says Made in Birminghan England on the side of the Barrel near the loading area,,,, So my recommendations are buy a British made Webley and look after it,,,,Keep it clean, respect its power and it will never let you down,,, and never buy cheap sights,,,, this rifle will bust a cheap sight and at the very minimum knock your crossairs off after one or 2 shots if you dare to use cheap sights,,, Im loving using this rifle and i hope to using this very firearm for many years to come,,,10-10 every time for this rifle which is fast becoming a classic in its own right,,, Oh yes and its a beautifully crafted and solidly made weapon too,,,,Many thanks,,,Tony McLoone,,,
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★★★★★
“For my shooting characteristics, this gun was made for...”
Written on: 12/03/2008 by robo342 (1 review written)
For my shooting characteristics, this gun was made for me, a perfect fit. I am very happy with the workmanship, accuracy, and especially the power. Is this gun the right fit for most, probably not, you must analyze what you want from a gun, how you are going to use it, and then do your research. If you do, then there is a very good chance you will write a very good review on whatever product you are reviewing. (read more)
Termitekillr's Response to robo342's Review
Written on: 30/12/2008
I agree with this review because... Well put robo. I bought this gun in .25 cal. several years ago & expected a heavy gun that was not like cocking a redrider bbgun & thats what I got. I would not recomend this gun for pop can shooting with the kids.
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★★★★★
“I advice to by it in .25 caliber . ”
Written on: 10/03/2008
I advice to by it in .25 caliber .
you need a scope to aim it and shoot well? recomendation only
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★★★★★
“The thing to consider before buying a Patriot is that...”
Written on: 24/02/2008
The thing to consider before buying a Patriot is that in most cases a different airgun is a better answer to the question. I own a Patriot in .25 caliber, and it is my least used airgun out of a total of 7. It is a one trick pony, lots of power for a spring airgun, and I'll admit I was drawn to that. But if I really need power, it still pales when compared to any cartridge firearm, so why? (Unless you live in an area that restricts them)
I am not whining that it is to heavy or hard to cock,...
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★★★★★
“I am not here to write a story about the Webley...”
Written on: 15/01/2008 by chariotracer101
I am not here to write a story about the Webley Patriot but just to simply leave a few pros and cons about this rifle since I do have one. I purchased this rifle with the intention on using it as pest control and hunt small game. This rifle does exactly that, it hits its target with authority(Mr Squirel is down for good)! I also find the Webley Patriot to be very accurate. Not quite as accurate as my Beeman R9 or my Beeman RX2 but after all this rifle is not made for this type of shooting. A... (read more)
★★★★★
“Don't listen to rubbish these people say about the...”
Written on: 04/10/2007 by michael2615 (1 review written)
Don't listen to rubbish these people say about the gun, go and try it out yourselves at a gun shop. (read more)
★★★★★
“Everything about this rifle says "big" and "solid"....”
Written on: 15/09/2007 by wal1
Everything about this rifle says "big" and "solid". I'm in the process of breaking mine in (got it 2 months ago), and have between 600-700 shots in. You get used to the cocking effort; it's not prohibitive if you're reasonably strong. Best accuracy so far comes with 31g Kodiak (634 fps), 26.5g Cro-Magnum (750 fps), and 24g Beeman Silver Arrow (about 810 fps). I've been having quite a time getting consistent groups, but I attribute that to shooting technique (it takes a LOT of practice), and... (read more)
Vulcanator's Response to 311119_wal1's Review
Written on: 25/09/2007
Did you buy your rifle brand new? I'm curious if yours is one of the Turkish made rifles as I've heard that the finish on the Turkish made rifles is not as good as those made in the UK.
<br/>Would you care to comment on its finish as I'm considering buying one-thanks.
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★★★★☆
“I ordered my Webley Patriot rifle from Cabela's about...”
Written on: 02/04/2006 by RLC (2 reviews written)
I ordered my Webley Patriot rifle from Cabela's about five years ago because I was impressed with the velocity figures. I bought it in .177 caliber. I was shocked when I received it because of it's size and weight (my last air rifle was a very old Benjamin in .177). It also takes a while to get used to the noise (almost as much as a .22 rimfire) and the recoil (more than a rimfire). I put a BSA 2-7x scope on it (bad choice, this is the worst scope I've ever looked through). The gun is... (read more)
★★★★★
“Well I just got my new Webley Patriot today and WOW...”
Written on: 15/02/2006 by blk822 (3 reviews written)
Well I just got my new Webley Patriot today and WOW what a rifle. Lots of POWER. Great workmanship and I couldn't ask for a better shooting rifle. I have a Gamo Shadow 1000 and it is a toy compareded to the Patriot .22 cal. I was sighting in my 4-16x50 leapers scope and it was shooting through 1/2" plywood at 30 yards. I used Crossman Premeire domed pellets and they shoot very straight. And had lots of penetration. Great rifle for the money. (read more)
Kcwoods's Response to blk822's Review
Written on: 14/07/2006
How do you like that nitrogen spring you put in it?
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★★★★★
“I hear a lot about cocking the Webley Patriot.I am 5'8...”
Written on: 11/02/2006 by mark bone (1 review written)
I hear a lot about cocking the Webley Patriot.I am 5'8 180 and I can shoot 200 pellets though it a day I do it a lot. I have a RWS 350 and it feels like cocking a toy. Well here are the results I shot Kodiak 30.9 gr at 621 avg at 50 yards they went 530.4 fps, thats 19.2 fpe. It's a very powerful air gun. Crow mags go 705 mv, they are very inaccurate after 25 yards. I bough BSA and Rino pellets JUNK!! I also bough Beeman ft they look good. 19.7 gr 815 mv hope this helps (read more)
★★★★★
“Compared to My Beeman R-9 rifle the Webley Patriot is...”
Written on: 31/08/2005 by Spartacus101
Compared to My Beeman R-9 rifle the Webley Patriot is much more powerful. Well worth the money. The effort it takes to cock is not really a negative, this is just a minor detail that anyone will overcome and over time will not seem so apparent. I recomend either a Bushnell Banner 4-12 by 40 or what I have on mine which is a Banner Trophy 4-12 by 40 an Excellent scope. (read more)
★★★★★
“Have just bought a Webley Patriot, fells good. But...”
Written on: 26/06/2005 by Andy 2911 (2 reviews written)
Have just bought a Webley Patriot, fells good. But have one problem. Need sight and mount can anyone help me in selecting a good and affordable one. Gun has gas ram fitted but have heard the owner before me has went through a few sights (cheap ones probably as he's a skinflint) any info will be really welcome. (read more)
Jimbis's Response to Andy 2911's Review
Written on: 09/07/2005
Hey! I bought a Webley Patriot in .25 cal. a couple months ago. Great gun! Lots of power. I've got it equiped with a Bushnell 3-9X32 scope with adjustable objective. I've never owned a high end scope so I can't comment on them but to me this Bushnell is an excellent lower priced scope. I've fired about 400 rounds through my Patriot so far and have had no problems what so ever. I got my scope through AirGunExpress.com ($82.00) but since have found it cheaper at Binoculars.com ($66.30). I should point out that Airgun Express has a much better description of the scope and lists its fearures in detail. You might want to check them out.
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<br>At present I'm just using the scope rings that came with it as the Patriot does not require high profile rings. Who knows what'll happen after another 1000 shots, but for now I love this scope. Hope this helped you.
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★★★★★
“There is one word that adequately expresses the Webley...”
Written on: 26/06/2005 by relliktibbar
There is one word that adequately expresses the Webley Patriot's suitability as a hunting tool: HASENPFEFFER. The .25 cal. absolutely devastates game.
This air rifle has deservedly been labeled, "[M]ost powerful springier." It is clear that the Patriot is an air rifle for the experienced shooter. Anyone spending this much money without adequately researching the nuance of the product is betrayed by their own whining and complaining in the various online forums. This is a big rifle. ...
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★★★★★
“The Webley Patriot Air Rifle is the best over all...”
Written on: 29/04/2005 by mmartin
The Webley Patriot Air Rifle is the best over all spinger besides my FBW 124. Devastating power with awsome down range performance. Shooting sub 1/2 groups the second day I recieved it with open sites at 30 yards. I own 3 other springers that just don't come close to this gun for over all perfomance. (read more)
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★★★★★
“I have had a Webley Patriot for quite some time now...”
Written on: 23/01/2005 by Casey002 (1 review written)
I have had a Webley Patriot for quite some time now and have found it to be very accurate and quite a satisfying shooting experience. Don't expect very good accuracy until 500 to 1000 rounds are put through it. Always check the tightness of all fasteners before shooting. I have also found that a thoroughly clean bore is essential for any degree of accuracy. As for the recoil, it is more that most air fifles, but come on it's not as bad as a rimfire. Are the people in these reviews adults or... (read more)
Tallguy606's Response to Casey002's Review
Written on: 15/06/2007
Love my Patriot too. I could feel the action moving a little bit in the stock after about 50 shots, so I "bedded" the back end of the action with epoxy mixed with sawdust, also a little along the left and right side at the front (greasing metal good first). Now no movement at all. Still check the screws often though. Mine shoots excellently, 880 fps with .22 Benjamin domes, .75 groups rested at 80 feet open sights, super power, blows through my wood backstop. Excellent rifle in all respects.
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★★★★★
“I have had the Webley Patriot for almost a year now,...”
Written on: 22/12/2004 by Squirrel1 (1 review written)
I have had the Webley Patriot for almost a year now, and I am very pleased with her. When I took her out of the box I was very impressed by the fit and finish of the rifle. The blueing was very nice and the stock was nicely finished too. At first it seems a bit heavy, especially with a scope added. So I would say that this is not a rifle for the smaller person. Also the cocking effort is on the high side, however this is to be expected with a 29 - 30 foot pound rifle. After I shot it for a... (read more)
★★★★★
“Finally got a .22 Webley Patriot after reading all the...”
Written on: 17/12/2004 by tallguy606 (6 reviews written)
Finally got a .22 Webley Patriot after reading all the reviews. Sold my .20 R1 to get more power. Love my Patriot, it just blasts whatever you shoot at. I shoot open sights with Crosman Wadcutter pellets and am hitting empty shotgun shells from 30 yards, even with 53 year old eyes! Super velocity and power, far more impact on target than my R1 .20. Am looking for possum, nutria etc in woods, I just know this rifle will drop them like a sledgehammer. I love this gun and will never sell it. (read more)
★★★★★
“I purchased the Webley Patriot gun for the .25 cal...”
Written on: 28/11/2004 by KG1
I purchased the Webley Patriot gun for the .25 cal knock down power. I also own a RWS 350, and a Beeman 950, and can give a comparative viewpoint of this rifle. The Beeman 950 is not in the same league but is a lots of fun and very accurate. The RWS is powerful and the pellet blazes through anything you shoot, and is the best for long-range shots. But for knock down stopping power the Webley Patriot is the gun to have. I just got the Patriot and have not tested it at longer-range shots... (read more)
★★☆☆☆
“I find the Webley Patriot has tremendous power as much...”
Written on: 18/04/2004 by kwkeltner
I find the Webley Patriot has tremendous power as much as anyone would need for a pellet gun. I spent hours and hours (days into weeks) and did not find the pellet that would come out with consistent accuracy with the rifle. I tried match pellets and six other different makes and vaireties but could not get the gun to be consistent with accuracy. I used a pellet rounder to try to add consistency to the pellets - it did not help. I am quite disappointed with the rifle, to have spent so much... (read more)
Thobern's Response to 151950_kwkeltner's Review
Written on: 29/09/2004
Webley is having its guns made in china with cheap cpmponents. I had a nimbus the sheared within a tin of pellets.
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Rhino3007002's Response to 151950_kwkeltner's Review
Written on: 30/09/2004
Why not send it to venom for them to sort it out for you they are excellent with customer service and would be able to smooth out the recoil and deepen the scope rail seat. Let me know how you get on best of luck Paul / rhino3007@aol.com
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★★★★☆
“I bought a Webley Patriot a few years ago and have to...”
Written on: 17/03/2004 by ferdia (3 reviews written)
I bought a Webley Patriot a few years ago and have to say it was a pretty disappointing experience. The rifle was a .177, probably a rarity for a patriot, but I was tempted by it's supersonic capability. Power wise I had no complaints. At 50 yards it could put a pellet through an empty drinks can *without knocking it over* I put a pellet through a jam jar without the jar shattering at 20 yards. No, the beef I had with the weapon was the recoil. Such a powerful recoil made it to all... (read more)
★★★★★
“I have just read through all the reviews on here for...”
Written on: 09/02/2004 by tommy6206 (1 review written)
I have just read through all the reviews on here for the patriot and it seems most have never shot 1 or are just rubbish shots. I shot 1 yesterday for the first time. It has been sat on the dealers shelf for 18 months that I know of. I was shooting at 50mtrs with bisly pest control pellets with OPEN sights plus they was a strong wind ,I was able to get 2" groups with out a problem. It does have some weight behind it but then thats because its built so solid the finish is A1 and accuracy... (read more)
★★★★★
“I'm now the proud owner of a Webley Patriot .25.I...”
Written on: 10/12/2003 by nzCraig (5 reviews written)
I'm now the proud owner of a Webley Patriot .25.I traded my Cometa Fenix in,as I was looking for more power.That's just what you get with the Patriot and heaps of it.I use to think my Fenix was a big air rifle,but seen it beside the Patriot made it look small.The Patriot is the type of air rifle that commands respect eveytime you pick it up.The build quality is fantastic,wood,metal etc and is a great looking rifle. Ok it's a heavy rifle and it take's a bit more effort to cock, but the... (read more)
★★★★★
“I got the Patriot in .25 cal. and Im very happy with...”
Written on: 20/09/2003 by WVhunter (1 review written)
I got the Patriot in .25 cal. and Im very happy with it. I got the gun for hunting (squirrels mostly) and It really does a good job. For their size, them bushytails are tough critters but when the pellet from the patriot hits, it leaves a very deadly impression. The cocking effort is not as bad as people make it out to be. This is a very hard hitting hunting airgun. It has to have some cocking effort to get that kind of power. The Patriot is more than you need for shooting pop cans in the... (read more)
★★★★★
“Just bought a .22 cal Patriot a few days ago after...”
Written on: 12/05/2003 by jacksniper.
Just bought a .22 cal Patriot a few days ago after wanting something more powerful than my RWS .177. Along with the gun I order a few different cans of pellets ( beeman Crow Magnum and Silver Bear, Bejamin Diablo, and Predator Ballistic tips. I was instantly impressed by the high quality craftsmanship (aside from the shameful sights). The bluing is very deep, the stock is beautifully designed. First shot was with the Predator pellet in my back yard. Put out an old, heavy, large ,plastic... (read more)
116681_Jake.'s Response to 96967_jacksniper.'s Review
Written on: 18/07/2003
if any one nows ow to stop this air gun snaping screws please email me. I ahave had nothing but trouble with this gun from day one..and it has crocked the stock were the last screw gose in behind the trigger gaurd.
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Cnsane's Response to 96967_jacksniper.'s Review
Written on: 03/12/2003
That would be called blue Loc-Tite and allen head bolts, Jake. I believe the front two are 1/4-28. The stock cracked by the trigger guard because you let the front bolts get loose and the guard screw was trying to anchor the action. I don't have one bit of trouble with mine at over a thousand shots, but always check the tightness of all my bolts and screws before I start shooting.
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Tallguy606's Response to 96967_jacksniper.'s Review
Written on: 03/09/2007
My Patriot was ever so slightly sliding back and forth in the stock. I mixed up some 2-part epoxy and sawdust, half and half, greased the back half of the action and the front of the action near the holding screws, spread expoxy mix onto stock, and bolted everything back together. Wipe of any oozing excess. Next day, gun is rock solid, better accuracy, no breaking screws because action fits exactly into stock, no movement at all. Easy to remove action if wanted. Makes a great gun better. Also did this with my R1.
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★★★★☆
“a great, unique rifle, extremely powerful and accurate...”
Written on: 10/05/2003 by webley.
a great, unique rifle, extremely powerful and accurate enough when you've learned how to shoot it
one of my favourites, never going 2 part with it!
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Cnsane's Response to webley.'s Review
Written on: 03/12/2003
It's not the spring losing power, it's the fact that it stops dieseling as it breaks in.
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☆☆☆☆☆
“i had this rifle 1 year ago and i don't rate it at all...”
Written on: 27/02/2003 by gary.
i had this rifle 1 year ago and i don't rate it at all due to appalling accuracy, it has good power but nothing else. I now have a weihrauch hw 90 which is just as powerful and alot more accurate and is better because it uses the theoben gas ram system which is more consistent. (read more)
76595_Frood.'s Response to 76211_gary.'s Review
Written on: 01/03/2003
I can one-hole 2, 3, sometimes 4 shots in a row at 30 yards with the Patriot. You can't ask for more than that. I can't say why you can't shoot the Patriot. Admittedly, I did have a Theoben gas ram installed.
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103333_Einstein.'s Response to 76211_gary.'s Review
Written on: 02/06/2003
1st of all the Weirauch isn't as powerful. Second, the Weirauch's power goes down when it's warm outside.
<br>3rd, it's HUGE.
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<br>Give the Patriot time and you will learn to shoot it.
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Cheriyadri's Response to 76211_gary.'s Review
Written on: 15/09/2003
Dear Einsteen
<br>I would like to buy HW90 gun but ,can you please tell me how much power goes down when the wether is hot?
<br>Thank you.
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Cnsane's Response to 76211_gary.'s Review
Written on: 03/12/2003
Just another guy who won't learn the proper technique to shooting a magnum springer accurately.
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The Hunter No1's Response to 76211_gary.'s Review
Written on: 21/12/2003
have you tried varied pellets?unless there is a real problem with your webley,you will find the right ammo.good luck.
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Trade's Response to 76211_gary.'s Review
Written on: 10/06/2004
Hits the nail on the head, the Patriot is utter junk and anyone who has ever shot more than 1 gun would know it
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★☆☆☆☆
“I bought this rifle when my mate bought his Hw 90,...”
Written on: 22/02/2003 by johnny.
I bought this rifle when my mate bought his Hw 90, they're both as powerful as each other but his is nicer to hold and is more accurate. It is also better than my patriot because of the gas ram system as it will not lose power as my patriot has already started to lose power making his hw 90 more powerful now. So don't buy this patriot buy a hw 90 i'm buying one soon and selling my patriot (read more)
Cnsane's Response to 74842_johnny.'s Review
Written on: 03/12/2003
Whatever you say, Gary. ..I mean Johnny.
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Fredrik Sweden's Response to 74842_johnny.'s Review
Written on: 21/02/2004
I can buy your gun.
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Rhino3007002's Response to 74842_johnny.'s Review
Written on: 30/09/2004
how much do you want for patriot rhino3007@aol.com
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★★★★★
“I've owned mine for 5 years now and couldn't be...”
Written on: 20/02/2003 by dave.
I've owned mine for 5 years now and couldn't be happier with it's power. bExcellent accuracy can be obtained if you use the right pellet and learn to hold it the right way. I find a very light hold works for me. What really makes this gun great is it's versatility. If you ever tire of shooting the standard fodder, buy a 5# bag of hornady #3 buckshot. It is harder than pellets and has far superior penetration characteristics. Also, I've had success shooting hard cast pistol bullets..250 caliber. (read more)
★★★★★
“I've already written a review of this gun but it's...”
Written on: 25/01/2003 by Frood.
I've already written a review of this gun but it's time to set the record straight. Have you noticed that there isn't anyone saying "this is an okay gun"? They either love it or they hate it. There's a reason for that and I think it's all about pellet choice. The Patriot throws out heavy pellets at just under the speed of sound (1080 fps). If you use a lighter pellet, it goes supersonic. Quick story: when I bought the Patriot I used the pellets that I had handy, Crossman 14 grains. The first... (read more)
Birdlarsen.'s Response to 67948_Frood.'s Review
Written on: 09/02/2003
You hit the nail on the head. It is all about pellet selection. You were talking about the .22 cal I believe but I have the .25 cal so I don't have to worry about super sonic. Ok, here goes my results, no exaggerating, and I am no marksman. The RWS Diana Magnums .25 are awesome when it comes to accuracy (in my gun). I got my Bushnell 4-12x40mm Trophy and started testing the range with different pellets. Some grouped very, very bad, but some grouped better, and one (RWS Diana Mags) grouped awesome. My brother land surveys and he measured 80 yards on the dot. We sighted the scope in and with a tripod rest shot amazing. We were plucking off 12oz beer cans full of water and beer bottles full of water 8 times out of ten. Thats a small bird sized object and this gun is for hunting so thats great because 80 yards (ACTUAL 80 yards) is a long way for a pellet gun. And let me tell you it was still moving with some force, blowing through the cans and leaving holes the size of my index or middle finger in the back. It was fun to see the delay after shooting and then the bottles exploding a second or 2 later. Anyway, in conclusion pick the right pellet and this gun can do amazing things.
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Tetryl's Response to 67948_Frood.'s Review
Written on: 06/02/2005
Finally, somebody who knows what he's talking about, nothing but praise from me on this rifle.
<br>But you not only got to have the strength to cock it but the brains to use it.
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<br>Best Regards,
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<br>Tetryl
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Farmerboy's Response to 67948_Frood.'s Review
Written on: 12/12/2008
I found this review helpful because... its honest and straight to the point
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★★★★★
“Ok, I was trying to decide whether or not to get the...”
Written on: 17/01/2003 by BirdLarsen.
Ok, I was trying to decide whether or not to get the Patriot for a very long time. I read every review at this site (as well as many others), talked to dealers, and visited shops to see for myself. Finally, I bought the .25 caliber version (you can put other caliber barrels on it to make it a .22 .20 etc.). I didn't buy it to "show-off", I bought it for one reason only, an accurate, powerful, ADULT-size, HUNTING weapon. Now it's my turn to say a few words about this gun. At first... (read more)
103719_Einstein.'s Response to 66100_BirdLarsen.'s Review
Written on: 03/06/2003
I totally agree with BirdLarsen. His review says it all; this is one hell of a gun, but not for all. If you move from match (card) shooting to this rifle, you're in for a surprise. But give the gun time and you won't be dissapointed. I shoot hunting rifles of all sorts and then this gun isn't a problem. Weightproblem? Wait 'till yer eightteen boy!
<br>Get a good scope with dampa mount en you will shoot the sox of a fox!
<br>But don't expect the performance of a fire-arm, driving a GTI won't qualify you for the Monaco GP after all.
<br>It's a airgun for the hunter. No more, no less.
<br>Best advice: TRY IT !
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Dick's Response to 66100_BirdLarsen.'s Review
Written on: 13/10/2003
Yeah BirdLarsen, you're right. Your review places the Patriot in the right perspective.
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<br>I own a HW 90 (.22 and .25), a Patriot (.25) and a Rapid MKII (.22.
<br>In terms of accuracy I rate the Rapid No.1, the Patriot No. 2 and the HW90 No.3.
<br>But that said: the Patriot is still more than adequate on 40-50 yards in the field. It is a truly hunting tool, nothing for the backyard plinkers. (I leave the fox to my Remington 7 mm magnum)
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<br>The HW90 is ok on lower power levels, but when it is adjusted to the same muzzle velocity as the Patriot and Rapid MKII the accuracy is gone.
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<br>Cheers, Dick
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Clane121's Response to 66100_BirdLarsen.'s Review
Written on: 13/10/2003
Well Put!, by BirdLarsen and Einstein. One final point, if your going for your first ADULT AIRGUN and your not an occasional to avid firearms enthusiast, start with a bit less air gun. I bought this gun just weeks after getting into air gunning and it took me weeks to learn to shoot it. ( I couldn't hit anything at a distance. )
<br>And, while I really wanted to blame my inexperience on this air rifle. It was me...
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<br>I now have a 6x24x50 scope on mine and can consistently peg empty 12ga. shells @ 50 yrds., ( shell stood up ) That sure as hell made a believer out of me. It also impressed the guys there dialing in their 7MM Mag
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<br>Case in point: I think you get it...
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Piscesguy's Response to 66100_BirdLarsen.'s Review
Written on: 28/02/2004
Hi Birdlarsen, I thought your review was excellent! As a big game hunter I know my 30.06 that\'s zeroed at 200 yards will shoot a couple of inches higher at 100, and then drop quickly. My question is for rabbits and pheasant I\'m sure the arcing of the .25 isn\'t a problem, but for smaller game birds that require more pin-point accuracy at various ranges is it? If your scope is zeroed at 40 yards with the .25 will it shoot within a 1.5 inch circle from 10-50 yards? If you see this and can answer my question it would be really appreciated. Thanks, John
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Kukareku's Response to 66100_BirdLarsen.'s Review
Written on: 04/02/2007
$500 for a springer? Get a PCP and have even MORE POWER with NO RECOIL!
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Farmerboy's Response to 66100_BirdLarsen.'s Review
Written on: 12/12/2008
A very good and honest review i am buying a patriot shortly i will post a review
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★★☆☆☆
“I bought one of these about a year ago thinking I was...”
Written on: 08/01/2003 by urbantiger.
I bought one of these about a year ago thinking I was moving up in the world. The gun has awesome power, one of the reasons I bought it. However I found it wasn't very accurite at all at beyond 20 yeards or so. Power is nothing without accuracy. I have shot with guns with a lot of recoil before and was fine with them so I can only see the gun as being at fault. However one reason for this might be it was a second hand gun. Overall for this particular gun I would advise anyone to save a... (read more)
★★★★★
“Anyone who makes the claim that the Patriot/Kodiak is...”
Written on: 07/11/2002 by Airgunner4life.
Anyone who makes the claim that the Patriot/Kodiak is not accurate, simply hasn't practiced enough to master the recoil and hold sensitivity. I can shoot 5 through one hole at 30yds, and I'm really not that great. The power is pretty good, and I have noticed no spring fatigue. The gun is heavy, but a sling will "cure" that. For the money, one might strongly consider a PCP. However, in keeping with spring piston simplicity, this gun is great. (read more)
Trade's Response to 48941_Airgunner4life.'s Review
Written on: 10/06/2004
30 yards? well worth getting a FAC rated airgun for. You could do with trying a decent gun such as a Tx200. You will find out how accurate a good air rifle is.
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★★★★☆
“I am from Wales and i rough shoot a lot and found the...”
Written on: 08/10/2002 by steve.
I am from Wales and i rough shoot a lot and found the Webley patriot gun ideal for that as its rugged and sturdy. This gun is typically English made as you can see by its quality. It's accurate, it's got good weight but the price is steep - i paid £300 for it with no scopes - but it's worth it. I can kill a rabbit at 80yrds with my 8x56 scopes with ease.
I've found no beter gun at this 28lbs power level.
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★★★★★
“If you are into airgun hunting with a springer, then...”
Written on: 25/09/2002 by M..
If you are into airgun hunting with a springer, then nothing will come close to a Webley Patriot in .25cal. Just blasts any creature you are supposed to hunt with an airgun.
Never mind whether it is that tiny head shot. Just hit the animal/bird, and it's dead. As other reviews suggest, a Theoben gas ram conversion is available, so no more arguments about how long the spring will last (it will probably outlast the purchaser) but with the gas ram, cocking effort will climb to 55lbs. Excellent...
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Boltaction's Response to 39850_M..'s Review
Written on: 09/05/2004
100 yds kills with a Patriot..........cobblers
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<br>boltaction aka jim
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★★★★★
“The Webley Patriot/Kodiak is a great gun but it...”
Written on: 03/09/2002 by Frood.
The Webley Patriot/Kodiak is a great gun but it requires more care than some (both maintenance and shooting technique). Because of its weight, it's sensitive to bumps and jars. As with all spring-air guns never slam the breech shut or -shudder- pull the trigger with the breech open. The Patriots massive spring WILL bend the barrel. If you use a scope, get a good scope. This gun will turn most scopes into pretty paperweights. Make sure your scope is rated for super magnum airguns. Recoil is a... (read more)
Kukareku's Response to Frood.'s Review
Written on: 04/02/2007
1/2 inch group at 50 yards is not possible with a springer.
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★★★★★
“I consider the Webeley Patriot to be the finest,...”
Written on: 28/07/2002 by NS..
I consider the Webeley Patriot to be the finest, spring-piston, .25 caliber break barrel air rifle around. It's power is in the 27-30ftlb range, and it features remarkable accuracy out to beyond 50 yards. It is capable of taking most types of North American small game and varmnits. Even coyotes could be despatched at under 30 yards with proper shot placement. It's quality is unequalled for it's astonishingly low price of $430, making it, in my opinion at least, the best big bore air rifle... (read more)
★☆☆☆☆
“I own an aa310 and a pro sport. both fac rated. A...”
Written on: 20/06/2002 by jimbo.
I own an aa310 and a pro sport. both fac rated. A friend of mine has rapid 7 hw77 hw80 22 rimfire all on ticket.
He bought a Webley Patriot air gun secondhand. Whilst it was fairly consistant over the crono it was rubbish beyond 30 yds - too much recoil. I tried it and found it to be the same. There are many good, high powered springers out there now. Dont buy one of these. They're rubbish, full stop.......................................................
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39172_Greg.'s Response to 28610_jimbo.'s Review
Written on: 23/09/2002
That's what you get when you buy second hand...buy a new one, Mine works fine.
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Chillin_Home.'s Response to 28610_jimbo.'s Review
Written on: 11/11/2002
I am no super fan of this air rifle but the patriot does deserve better than that. It has got a large amount of recoil on it but I think you may find that you haven't had enough practice shooting air rifles. The recoil is very different from that of a rimfire. I've only had one session with a friends patriot at my local club and although I wouldn't give it 5 stars it's not too bad. Apart from the weight and the kick it shoots inch spreds 45 yards. That's not as bad as some rifles I've shot. Oh its a lot of cash too!
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53291_Gerry.'s Response to 28610_jimbo.'s Review
Written on: 25/11/2002
I back you up on this because the gun is no good beyond 30 yards and I haven't got a bad shot but it is not as accurate of some of the guns I've shot plus I have to set my sights every time I use it because of it's recoil. It's power is nice but every thing else is an all time low!
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Kukareku's Response to 28610_jimbo.'s Review
Written on: 04/02/2007
Exactly! What is the point of having a high power springer if it is only good for 30 - 40 yards? 12 foot-pound air rifle will do it. It's not the power what kills; it's accuracy!
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★★★★★
“The Webley Patriot air gun never failed to impress me,...”
Written on: 25/05/2002 by sam.
The Webley Patriot air gun never failed to impress me, whether I was shooting through 1 inch pine or shooting empty shot gun shells at fifty yards.
The gun does require a firm grip for good accuracy and a test to determine the most accurate pellet but the gun will shoot any thing from #3 buck shot to beeman kodiak in to a half inch group at thirty yards, except beeman's laser pellet or any pellet with a flat head and light wieght.
Velocity, the gun would shoot cromagnum pellets at 695 fps...
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112619_Tad.'s Response to 24746_sam.'s Review
Written on: 03/07/2003
Sam...
<br>Is the Cougar finished yet?
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★☆☆☆☆
“I read the other reviews and laughed. Has anyone who...”
Written on: 21/05/2002 by Lloyd.
I read the other reviews and laughed. Has anyone who owns a Patriot ever shot anything else? In all my time of shooting I have never shot a worse high powered rifle. Accuracy is a joke, never produces what webley claimed ( 30ft/lbs) most produce 20-22 . Try a Air arms pro-elite at 22ft/lb , it will blow a patriot into the dust. Maybe thats why Patriots have been selling in the UK for less than £100 secondhand ? (read more)
35532_Roland.'s Response to 24160_Lloyd.'s Review
Written on: 30/08/2002
The first time I shot the webley patriot i was surprised that i could not hit the broad side of a barn ten yards away. It took me some time to understand my follow trough was not addecuate for the high powered spring. Now, one year later I shoot 1" groups at 45 yards, often less with kodiaks/barracudas. The spring does deteriorate after a while, after one year it shot 22 ft/lb. Just installed a theoben gasram, now it shoots a nice 28 ft/lb an 'locktime' is considerably reduced making my follow trough addecuate to accomplish even smaller groups. Musts for Patriot/Kodiak are: HEAVY pellets, good shooter, possibly theoben gasram for better consistency.
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Hallguns.'s Response to 24160_Lloyd.'s Review
Written on: 29/09/2002
I have been hunting with a patriot for three years now, and I could not be happier with it.
<br>As far as energy goes I get about 27lbs with my theoben conversion. My groups are around .5" at 30 yards. You are complaining about low energy, but I believe the UK has a law limiting energy does it not?
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44225_Ali.'s Response to 24160_Lloyd.'s Review
Written on: 16/10/2002
I am afraid i disagree with your review, immensely. All my life i have been shooting air guns for a sport and won many a competion. Currently i own 5 different guns including the gamo hunter 440 which really is no comparison to the webley. I have to say i firmly disagree with your review on the webley patriot. The patriot's accuracy is like no other and its power is unmatched. Its versatility is limited only by its weight which is necessary to control the recoil given off by a gun powerful enough to require a shooters permit in the UK.
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57034_Frood.'s Response to 24160_Lloyd.'s Review
Written on: 10/12/2002
I would have to say that there's something wrong with Lloyds aim or something wrong with Lloyds Patriot. I've owned about a dozen air guns and yes, I've used and owned more accurate guns but not many and none of them could match the combination of power and accuracy of the Patriot.
I will repeat what I stated in my own review:
If you want a lightweight gun with low recoil, you shouldn't be considering the Patriot/Kodiak. However, if you want a dead on accurate gun with exceptional knockdown power, learn to shoot the Patriot/Kodiak properly. You will not be disappointed.
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57263_Hallguns.'s Response to 24160_Lloyd.'s Review
Written on: 11/12/2002
Frood,
I could not agree with you more.
Any export patriot only getting 20 ft lbs should
be looked at by an airgun pro. Something wrong???
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Trade's Response to 24160_Lloyd.'s Review
Written on: 10/06/2004
Lloyd doesnt own a Patriot, but he owns a gunshop. Why do you think Patriots have been discontinued? Why do you think Webley have actually admitted there is a power and accuracy issue? Patriots are and always were one of the worst FAC power guns made. Accuracy was worse than a 12ft/lb basic webley springer, Webley always had problems with the power. Gas ram conversions do make a big difference but to say a standard Patriot is good really is taking the biscuit
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★★★★★
“The Webley Patriot air rifle has been held within my...”
Written on: 27/04/2002 by Muggs.
The Webley Patriot air rifle has been held within my family for 22 years.
We hold the .22 version. It is accurate and easy to hold. It is also easy to reload with the break barrel. For its age it is in good condition and shows that it can be easily maintained. I give this rifle an overall rating of 9/10
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101062_Pal.'s Response to Muggs.'s Review
Written on: 24/05/2003
You´ve had a Patriot for 22 years? Amazing!
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<br>You must be the only one in the world that has owned a Patriot that long.
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<br>All the rest of had to wait until about ten years ago when the Patriot became availiable on the market.
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★★★★☆
“The Webley Patriot air rifle has good power, good...”
Written on: 22/04/2002 by nygren.
The Webley Patriot air rifle has good power, good precision and is a very nice weapon. i have shot a lot of crows, rabbits and squirrels. (read more)
★☆☆☆☆
“Don't buy this Webley Patriot air gun, buy a super...”
Written on: 15/04/2002 by Kise.
Don't buy this Webley Patriot air gun, buy a super sport or something. (read more)
Cnsane's Response to Kise.'s Review
Written on: 03/12/2003
Nice review. Did you ever actually own one?
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★★☆☆☆
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Written on: 14/04/2002 by hASES.
The Webley Patriot is an air gun with very good power and accuracy.
It is very expensive and you can buy a lot of better guns for that price.
It is not fun to shot with.
You can't walk with it a lot of miles 'cause it is so heavy.
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Tetrol's Response to Tetrol's Review
Written on: 11/03/2009
Several weeks later - no changes in my comments - this gun is powerful and accurate, just keep vigilant on things loosening up. I carry it around my 15 acres block in hand, and it would be a load for someone of smaller stature.
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<br/>Small game (rabbits) are no trouble out to 40m. Beyond that is more my problem than the gun.