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“Puts smile on my face”

Written on: 28/06/2012

nedeed a car urgently as my Xsara diesel blew up just before I went on holiday. was looking for another diesel as I do a lot of miles and had sights on a peugeot 106 1.4 but a short drive in a car with no PAS ruled that out. the guy selling the peugeot had a number of cars and I stumbled across a 1.6 vtr with 68000 miles with new tyres and a cambelt replacement at 60500. Got in it and I was 20 again. This is not a luxury car but has sunroof, electric windows and a decent stereo. It is such a... (read more)

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“my saxo vtr”

Written on: 22/05/2012

I GOT MY SAXO VTR LAST WEEK I DID HAVE ONE FOR MY FIRST CAR BUT HAD TO SELL BECAUSE OF INSURANCE NOW AM BACK IN THE HOT SEAT THO HAHAHA MU SAXO HAS THE USUAL COMMON FAULTS LIKE INSIDE LIGHT DOESNT WORK THE HEATERS ARE LOUD WHEN THER ON PROPPA PAIN AND THE BLOW ON THE FRONT END OF THE EXAUST THE BACK AXLE HASNT GONE THO SO THATS ALL GOOD OI AND MY SPEEDO STOPPED WORKING NOT GOOD BUT THER FAST AT THE LIGHTS SHOCKS THAT PERSON WHO IS ON THE WRONG LANE AND TRIES TO SMOKE YOU I HAVE KEPT MINE... (read more)

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“my vtr”

Written on: 13/02/2012 by keving123 (1 review written)

bought my 2001 phase2 vtr about six months ago,totally loves it very reliable and nippy good looking car too!just changed the wheel bearings,complete arm and ball joints, i got a question for those out there who knows more about the vtr than my self, mainly turning right i hear a loud bubbling type noise(like a bubbling of fluid noise)also a horrible clunking knocking noise,could this be a driveshaft or cv joint problem???? thanks (read more)

Guest's Response to keving123's Review

Written on: 20/05/2012

yes mine does the clunking sound i thort it may be engine mounts or something but check the back axle that went on my old saxo and that used to click over bumps ect ther are a lot of common faults on them to be fair

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Written on: 21/02/2013

cv joint my corsa c sxi was the same

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Written on: 21/02/2013

cv joint my 2001 corsa c sxi did the same and was baffled get it fixed fails your mot

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“I have had 3 Saxo VTR's now, so it's fair to say I...”

Written on: 01/10/2010

I have had 3 Saxo VTR's now, so it's fair to say I know a fair bit about them. Every Saxo I've had is great to drive, handles very well, has good acceleration and can achieve around 36-40mpg when driven normally. The interior is fairly cheap, and the boot is small but it's what you expect from an older Citroen really. The engine when standard makes a lovely roar without the need for silly induction kits or big exhausts, the car really puts a smile on your face when in the country. It is also... (read more)

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“Bought my 2003 black saxo vtr with 64,000miles a month...”

Written on: 19/05/2010

Bought my 2003 black saxo vtr with 64,000miles a month ago and already i love it,very fast,sexy looks,cheap to run,cheap insurance and to buy.Only thing tax is very expensive comes in the highest group. Im 22 and have wanted 1 ever since i got into my citroen ax as my first car,the 1.6 engine gives some power and when you drop a gear to over take WHAT A FEELING!!!!!! Also when hammering into the corners at speed just feels like a go-kart as my vtr is lowered aswell. Anyone who wants a cheap... (read more)

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“This car is a very fast little car that handles well....”

Written on: 06/07/2009 by Lp12790

This car is a very fast little car that handles well. Citroen Saxo VTR has a smooth 1.6 8V engine that gives 98BHP. Good acceleration and really nice looking car. Really nice to drive. Sporty styling
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“owned my 2001(new shape) saxo vtr for 3 months. 1300...”

Written on: 02/07/2009 by marksummy (1 review written)

owned my 2001(new shape) saxo vtr for 3 months. 1300 quid for 1 with 27000 on the clock with 1 owner and a full service history. what a bargain u would think. so far I've had to replace both drive shafts and 1 wheel bearing and 1 ball joint. I've done the full service to it including timing belt and it runs sweet. 4 michelin tyres and it handles immense without lowering or a strut brace yet. i drive it up the motorway and it rattles and gets blown about by a wee gust of wind and i watch as... (read more)

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“At this moment in time i have not even had my Citroen...”

Written on: 06/05/2009 by adzsterrrr

At this moment in time i have not even had my Citroen saxo vtr for even a week and i cant drag myself out of it it has been highly modified and is realy fast off the light as i leave the rusted boy racers in the dust im only 17 and my insurance is only £78 on this car fire and theft (read more)

04Cibpal's Response to 458534_adzsterrrr's Review

Written on: 09/07/2010

mate what insurance company are you insured because im 17 aswell and i have an citroen saxo vtr 1.6 1998 which only costed me £980 but the insurance companies are qiving me £9000 quotes lol

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Guest's Response to 458534_adzsterrrr's Review

Written on: 17/07/2011

hey up mate how come your insurance is only 78 pound what insuance company you with? email me please with info douglasmarch26@googlemail thanks i am 28 and i am looking at 1200 for my insurance

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Written on: 03/09/2011

Pleaaaaaaaaaaaase!! Tell me what insurance company you're with pleaaaaaaaaaaaaase email me!! I'm in dire need!!!! Email me at \"charlie.crozier@googlemail.com\"

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Guest's Response to 458534_adzsterrrr's Review

Written on: 05/10/2011

That is clearly meant to be £780. NOT £78.

My first year on a VTR was £2200. Second year was £1200. Third year is now £750.

I've had zero accidents & have zero points. No way is a 17 year old getting insured for £75. Blatent Bull!

Besides, 17 year old in a saxo = written off in its first year and higher premiums for us all! Standard.

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“I had a 1999T Reg Saxo VTR until August 2004 when I...”

Written on: 27/03/2009 by Rick259 (2 reviews written)

I had a 1999T Reg Saxo VTR until August 2004 when I traded it in for my current car, a Citroen C3 Pluriel, which has given me nothing but gearbox trouble. I bought this car on a whim and absolutely hate it. So much so that I am seriously considering looking to find a late model (2003) Saxo VTR to replace it...A C2 VTR isn't the same!

Really miss my Green Mean machine and I wonder if it's still out there somewhere T831EGX, Where are you?? :)

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“My saxo is fast for a 1.6 8v cheap insurance, handles...”

Written on: 05/03/2009 by ll25ll

My saxo is fast for a 1.6 8v cheap insurance, handles great quick off the mark. Looks the part never let me down yet! Fab car love it! its an eye catcher! Having said that, the peddles are to close together, ball joint keeps going i think thats coz i take corners at 50mph lol. no alarm just immobiliser! no aircon. (read more)

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“Good little car for some one who is into hot hatches,...”

Written on: 19/07/2008 by davejoss1

Good little car for some one who is into hot hatches, but they don't take a lot of knocking about, unfortunately thats why teenagers normally go for this type of car. (read more)

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“Good looking, great handling and only group 7. Easily...”

Written on: 29/06/2008

Good looking, great handling and only group 7. Easily tunable fairly good acceleration. (read more)

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“Good fun car to drive and if you can get one cheap...”

Written on: 26/04/2008

Good fun car to drive and if you can get one cheap enough then it's well worth it. (read more)

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“Wicked looks, great handling, easy to get parts and...”

Written on: 09/04/2008 by FOIZY

Wicked looks, great handling, easy to get parts and cheap. Fast for a 1.6! I love this car! I have one and I will keep it till it dies! (read more)

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“Fun with some power and sharp handling, also Good...”

Written on: 27/03/2008 by nrieli (1 review written)

Fun with some power and sharp handling, also Good Looking and Cheap to run! Responsive handling with little body roll coupled with a light chassis and a 1.6 litre v8 (0-60 9.6sc) gives this car a very sporty feel, this makes for a fun drive and can hold its own even against larger car 1.8s and the odd Scooby around back roads. Having before had a GT4 Celica "very fast" but if on a budget (Mortgage) go for a vtr because its a good compromise. (read more)

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“The Citroen Saxo VTR is a neat little run-around quick...”

Written on: 01/03/2008 by samkerens22

The Citroen Saxo VTR is a neat little run-around quick of the mark good on fuel cheap parts loads and loads of things to mod. (read more)

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“Although a few bad points, this is a very good little...”

Written on: 23/02/2008

Although a few bad points, this is a very good little car quite fast for the insurance, and has never let me down yet. Had the car for a few months now never had any real problems just a few minor ones but over all brilliant car. (read more)

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“This is my first car and I love it. Mine is a P reg...”

Written on: 31/01/2008 by ilovesaxos (1 review written)

This is my first car and I love it. Mine is a P reg with 70000 miles of the click for £800. Great condition. Its quick, reliable and gets my from A to B (home to work mainly)
The main downside of this car is that they are generally driven by 17 year old chavs draped in silver and sovereign rings and in burberry colours who spend every penny they have on modifying it to be louder to annoy everyone who lives round them - this is not what all saxo drivers are like!
Other than that its a great... (read more)

371439_Rigz's Response to ilovesaxos's Review

Written on: 04/06/2008

This is a banging car. I bought this car because I like the looks and perfomance not because I'm a chav or boy racer. I bought it for £750 on a 2000 plate with low mileage and I think I am going to keep this car for a few years.

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“I think its a very good car, a few small faults but...”

Written on: 24/12/2007 by maddrivermatt

I think its a very good car, a few small faults but worth putting up with for the cars looks and performance. (read more)

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“Absolute stunner, great car, looks good, well worth...”

Written on: 20/09/2007 by fenando (1 review written)

Absolute stunner, great car, looks good, well worth having. Never had any problem, apart from the general wear and tear, which you would expect! (read more)

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“My son's just gone and got a 2003 Saxo VTR. I did...”

Written on: 12/07/2007 by jazzRS360 (15 reviews written)

My son's just gone and got a 2003 Saxo VTR. I did always like the idea of French hot-hatches: small, simple but oh so good fun, and I've driven many Renaultsports, Peugeots and Citroens which live up to that, while also living up to expectations of flimsy quality and questionable reliability. The Saxo is based on the 106 and so by all accounts its certainly outdated by modern standards, but thats not to say its a bad car.
Like the other French stablemates, trim quality is nothing short of... (read more)

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“This is my second Citroen Saxo VTR. My first was an R...”

Written on: 18/04/2007 by snakes23 (1 review written)

This is my second Citroen Saxo VTR. My first was an R reg which cost £1200 a few months ago. It was nippy and a nice looking motor but I had nothing but trouble with it. The power steering went, along with the central locking and the keypad locked itself. Then the battery kept on going flat. So you're probably wondering why I got another. Bought my new one yesterday. It's the face lift model so its 8bhp faster than the older models. It's lowered 50mm so its on the floor, with a stainless... (read more)

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“My Citroen Saxo VTR is moonstone blue and makes me...

Written on: 30/03/2007 by jamievtr2002

My Citroen Saxo VTR is moonstone blue and makes me smile,..lowered 60mm and 45 back, (prefer it that way) it has Gloss Black refurbished VTS alloys, which give it that Va Va Voom! It has a "very" loud sound system which will turn peoples heads.. it has an induction kit and exhaust which adds to the speed and immense sound, and keeps a grin on my face when I put the pedal to the floor, it has dark tinted windows and dark lights at the rear.. it looks Quality.. and sounds good too.. Cant get... (read more)

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“Goes over 20mph and gets me from a to b in style.”

Written on: 20/02/2007 by saxohustler

Goes over 20mph and gets me from a to b in style. (read more)

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“I have had a lot of minor problems (mainly electrical)...”

Written on: 28/01/2007 by andyholmes (1 review written)

I have had a lot of minor problems (mainly electrical) with my Citroen Saxo VTR - the air bag light seems to have a mind of its own (goes on and off) and I've had to replace both driveshafts since I've owned it. But don't let these problems put you off, the positives really do out weigh the negatives - I've driven lots of cars being a mechanic but only a few make me smile as much as my vtr. (read more)

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“I own a 2000 vtr 90hp Citroen Saxo with grey top...”

Written on: 10/01/2007 by xila

I own a 2000 vtr 90hp Citroen Saxo with grey top engine (facelift model) which goes well. It'll hit 62 in second, nearly 90 in third, 110 in fourth and because this is the facelift model it's only got 120 on the clock but in fifth gear I've been off that touching 125-127. I bought it private and only paid £2000 with 17K on the clock - (bargain or what!) I've added an induction kit and exhaust system which has made a noticeable difference through mid revs although it's still not fast! I've... (read more)

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“See above for more information but overall the Citroen...”

Written on: 05/01/2007 by saxo02 (1 review written)

See above for more information but overall the Citroen Saxo VTR isn't a bad car all told. (read more)

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“It is an amazing attractive little car. I don't know...”

Written on: 10/11/2006 by richief2k6 (1 review written)

It is an amazing attractive little car. I don't know why I didn't buy one sooner. It was well worth the wait. The Citroen Saxo VTR is very fast, cheap to run and it's a brilliant laugh. It does rattle a lot, and the after service I received from the garage I bought it from was terrible.

Get yourself one for the big grin factor!!! (read more)

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“Any excuse to drive it, and I'm out driving about in...”

Written on: 11/10/2006 by tina emery (1 review written)

Any excuse to drive it, and I'm out driving about in my Citroen Saxo VTR. I have thought about "doing her up", a few minor modifications, but I look at my Saxo and think, why? It's great, my 4 year old daughter loves going in my car.

I have to agree, it's very tempting to go that little bit faster. I'm loving the Saxo!!! It corners like a dream and although you feel like you're taking up all the road, you can slip through those little gaps that the larger cars can never fit through.

I... (read more)

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“My Citroen Saxo VTR still looks good for its age. The...”

Written on: 05/10/2006 by gmt1964

My Citroen Saxo VTR still looks good for its age. The standard brakes are not that good, have fitted better brake pads. I've had it since new and it's been a fantastic little car, never let me down, after six years, still drives like new, only because it's well looked after. (read more)

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“I have had my Citroen Saxo VTR 7 years now and it...”

Written on: 07/06/2006 by Rich32vtr (1 review written)

I have had my Citroen Saxo VTR 7 years now and it never lets me down, all the modifications have been done by myself and it gives me such pleasure to drive. I have friends who have Saxo's but the face lift model and they don't think the build quality is as good on them but they still enjoy owning them. Overall the Saxo is fantastic and as long as you look after it it'll look after you. (read more)

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“Ive only had my 03 Citroen Saxo VTR one week but what...”

Written on: 31/05/2006 by 03saxo03 (1 review written)

Ive only had my 03 Citroen Saxo VTR one week but what a car! Everytime I drive it, it puts a smile om my face. The ride is fantastic, it sticks to the road with comfort at great speeds. It easily matches/beats most cars for pace. The acceleration is good with a 0-60 in 9ish secs. Before buying the car I read bad reviews about the cars comfort, giving back problems etc, but I'm 6"5 with size 11 feet and I don't have any probs with this or the pedals. The only slight eye sore is the standard... (read more)

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“I have owned my Saxo VTR for 5 years now and can still...”

Written on: 26/04/2006 by AdrianVtrTurbo (1 review written)

I have owned my Saxo VTR for 5 years now and can still say it puts a smile on my face everytime I go down a windy country road or around the track. I have had a few modifications such as a Turbo conversion air induction kit and a noz kit fitted it is now producing around 215bhp and I have only had a problem with the air flow meter to date and I would greatly recommend the Saxo vtr to anyone whether they want to modify or not it is a great car........BIG SMILES................. (read more)

Jazzrs360's Response to AdrianVtrTurbo's Review

Written on: 23/04/2007

A friend of mine owns a 2002 Saxo VTR (brilliant little things, last one I drove had me laughing) and wants to know where he can get it turbocharged? Also how much power should he expect at the wheels with just that modification? Thanks.

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348591_Samkerens22's Response to AdrianVtrTurbo's Review

Written on: 01/03/2008

Hi there i just brought a vtr well a week ago like your last comment I also wish to know if its possible to turbo charge if so where??? but in general very please with this car.

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“All manner of issues with my Citroen Saxo. Failure of...”

Written on: 24/04/2006 by Cara1710 (1 review written)

All manner of issues with my Citroen Saxo. Failure of brakes, airbag light coming on, drive shaft adn gearbos clonking. Steering seems to adjust itself. (read more)

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“The Citroen Saxo VTR is a fun car to drive! It has all...”

Written on: 20/02/2006 by mattyuk (1 review written)

The Citroen Saxo VTR is a fun car to drive! It has all the features someone old and young will enjoy.

The top speed is about 110, and with it being light you get more out of it.

If you like mods, then this is the car for you also.

Soon I shall replace the Saxo VTR with a Golf GTI, but nothing will compare to the fun I had in this powerful little thing. (read more)

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“I've had my Citroen Saxo VTR for 3 months now, I've...”

Written on: 29/11/2005 by Khelereth (1 review written)

I've had my Citroen Saxo VTR for 3 months now, I've looked at reports on the car and it say its 0-60 in ten secs and top speed of 115mph. This is wrong my car is completly standed and i reach 120 easy Also can push it 127 on the motorway ( Normally on hills ) Now as for 0 - 60 I'm not sure but i'd bet money its quicker then 10secs.. I prefer the VTR then my RS 1600 (Fiesta) (read more)

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“I've owned a Citroen Saxo VTR since July 05, I bought...”

Written on: 08/11/2005 by mixer

I've owned a Citroen Saxo VTR since July 05, I bought it with 30,000 miles and 1 years warranty (2003 model), black, completely standard just lowered slightly. This is a wicked wee car, totally under estimated, easy on the juice, quick to respond to the toe and has a good top end for a 1.6 8v car (expect 130mph). I bought this car with the intention of modifying it, my only problem is, there is so much stuff I can do to the car I don't know what to do first! Would love a VTS but you gotta... (read more)

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“I've had my Citroen Saxo VTR for 2 months now. I have...”

Written on: 28/09/2005 by kaz3967

I've had my Citroen Saxo VTR for 2 months now. I have had much bigger engine and car sizes before, but I wouldn't swap. It is good on fuel, quick, and much cheaper on the insurance. I love it! (read more)

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“Wouldn't change my Citroen Saxo VTR for the world,...”

Written on: 22/08/2005 by jammydodja

Wouldn't change my Citroen Saxo VTR for the world, it's my first car and it hasn't let me down yet. Neat and easy to handle it is good on petrol. The insurance is quite cheap to. I got used to the car straight away and feel comfortable and safe when I drive it, a wicked car which I would recommend to anyone! Top Dog! (read more)

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“I have owned this Citroen Saxo VTR City Car for a...”

Written on: 08/07/2005 by bigrich1968 (1 review written)

I have owned this Citroen Saxo VTR City Car for a little over a month and I am very impressed with the power and the handling. Its a real head turner when I put my foot down because of the 57i kit that's on it. Nice growl to it too...lol...I think Citroen should make a turbo version of it - it would go like stink...anyway top little car, i'm very happy with mine. :-) (read more)

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Written on: 08/09/2005

the citroen saxo VTR is a fast little car for a saxo as mine is very slow

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“The Citroen Saxo VTR is a great value for money car it...”

Written on: 28/06/2005 by simon1986

The Citroen Saxo VTR is a great value for money car it has good performance for low insurance and also the fuel econmy is good. I think its a good choice for new drivers wanting good performance for low insurance. It handles like it is on rails, but you have too watch it when booting it around a corner too fast because a lift off the throttle will cause the back end too drift out. I found the steering and suspension set up perfectly for pottering around town or for motorway cruising. It can... (read more)

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Written on: 08/09/2005

Are you selling the car?

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“The Citroen Saxo VTR is excellent, I love it!! Would...”

Written on: 02/06/2005 by Hayley99

The Citroen Saxo VTR is excellent, I love it!! Would definitely recommend to others! Mine is Icelandic blue and it definitely turns heads. I have got new lights for it and the look is super! (read more)

216163_Slow's Response to 195956_Hayley99's Review

Written on: 05/11/2005

I have a Citroen Saxo VTR and I think it's a cool car. I've had mine for 2 years and it's fast. I got to about 130mph in it.

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“I've had my Citroen Saxo VTR for about 6 months now...”

Written on: 24/05/2005 by daveturnbull1000

I've had my Citroen Saxo VTR for about 6 months now and I have enjoyed it! Cheap to run and cheap to insure! I had the VTS before the VTR and both are very similar, changed to the VTR because it was a lot cheaper to run. The car can be quite nippy for a small hatch alough the VTR has nothing like the performance of the VTS. The interior is a bit dated and isnt as appealing as similar hatches such as the 106 or the Golf.

One thing that puts me off and i'm sure others too is the fact that... (read more)

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“I have had my Citroen Saxo VTR since May 03. Its black...”

Written on: 09/05/2005 by Roley (1 review written)

I have had my Citroen Saxo VTR since May 03. Its black with a 1.6l engine. Although all my friends and family rave about how nice it looks and drives, i'm not too convinced. It is too close to the floor for my liking, I prefer sitting up straight and sitting above everyone else, I guess thats because i'm used to driving a transit all day! The pedals are close together, it doesnt affect me, but it affects people who ask to drive my car!
The boot is very spacious, as is the whole of the inside... (read more)

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“My son recently bought a Citroen Saxo VTRand his...”

Written on: 08/05/2005 by sexy saxo (2 reviews written)

My son recently bought a Citroen Saxo VTRand his father and I decided to stop him driving it as he was "too mad". His father and I are both in our 60's and really love the VTR. The car made us feel like teenagers again and before we knew it, both he and I were driving it like lunatics. My husband who is just coming up to 65, got this idea that if the suspension were lowered the car would corner better. So we had the car lowered by 60mm, that's approximately 2.5 inches and what a difference.... (read more)

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“I have had my Citroen Saxo VTR City Car since January...”

Written on: 28/04/2005 by vic21 (1 review written)

I have had my Citroen Saxo VTR City Car since January and I can not fault it. It is an 03 reg and is blue. I can now take over people at great speed as my last car was a 1.1! (read more)

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“I am 18 and i've had a golf mk2 1.3 and a corsa 1.2,...”

Written on: 19/04/2005 by m4tt5487 (1 review written)

I am 18 and i've had a golf mk2 1.3 and a corsa 1.2, when I got my Citroen Saxo VTR I was amazed how fast it was. I've had my saxo for about 1 month and every time I put my foot down it still amazes me. My saxo is a dark blue w reg and I love it. I know I wont be getting a new car for a long time. (read more)

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“This Citroen Saxo VTR is my first car and I wouldnt...”

Written on: 14/04/2005 by Eggletoa (1 review written)

This Citroen Saxo VTR is my first car and I wouldnt change it for anything in the world. This car is everything, and the insurance price is top quality. My saxo vtr was £6000 with 10,000 miles on the clock. It has a cd player and a very tidy interior look about it. Also my saxo is very nippy but always feels very safe. (read more)

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“I have owned my Citroen Saxo VTR City Car for a little...”

Written on: 10/02/2005 by sexy saxo (2 reviews written)

I have owned my Citroen Saxo VTR City Car for a little over a week and up to now I can't fault it. I read through the reviews last night and thought to myself, "well 42 people out of 44 can't be wrong. My Saxo had a full service history and one owner from new, who had obviously looked after it with great care. Mitchellin tyres are fitted all round and it handles like no other car I've ever owned. The guy bought break pads with a lifetime guarantee from "quick fit" and it never fails to stop,... (read more)

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“I have just bought a 97 r reg Citroen Saxo VTR city...”

Written on: 14/01/2005 by danni boi 2004

I have just bought a 97 r reg Citroen Saxo VTR city car, it combines both speed and handling and I recommend it to any driver. The top speed is a respectable 130 and it has a turning circle of 10.5. The insurance is only 100 pounds more expensive than a 1.4i zx perfect for young drivers but beware, you will get pulled by the police more often. (read more)

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