air arms s410 carbine .22 (fac) review

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Review of Air Arms S410 Carbine .22 (FAC)

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By Ken. on 29th Jul 2003

Ken.'s Ratings

Accuracy	10/10
Handling	10/10
Value for money	10/10
Overall value	10/10
Ken.'s recommendation

Good Points

very accurate and powerful, quiet, compact, lightweight, great magazine, great action, quick and relatively easy to pump (if you use a handpump... i use a FX pump)

Bad Points

power not adjustable from factory (don't think i would change it anyway, but it'd be nice to have)

General Comments

I've had my FAC S410K (Carbine) for a few weeks now and since then, it's been the only air rifle I have used. This PCP is my first PCP, and I am very pleased with it. On the Air Arms page, it states that the FAC S410K will do 22 fpe. With Beeman Kodiak (H&N Barracuda) 21.5 grain pellets, I have chronoed a twenty shot average around 780 fps when filled to 190 bar. That's good for almost 30 fpe... enough to punch a hole in a steel trash can! 14.3 grain CP's were doing over 900 fps and 16 grain JSB FT (Daystate FT) did around 890 fps.


This gun is dead accurate. At 50 yards, I can do 1 1/2" groups with the JSB FT pellets. For me, that's very good. I am sure the gun can do better, but that's as far as my current ability allows. If you can calculate your holdover well, 100 yard small game kills should be easy.


I have a shrouded model, and let me tell you, you will be amazed at how little noise this gun makes. It's quieter than most springers. For the power it puts out, it's very silent.


My decision was between a FAC S410H (Classic) and the S410K, but I ended up with the Carbine because I like the shorter gun's balance and there almost no power difference between the Carbine and the Classic. The advantage to having the Classic would be a few more shots per fill. I can get a good 25 shots per fill, but I usually fill after two magazines because pumping from 130 bar-190 bar is very quick and easy.


It took me a short while to learn to work the action and the magazine system, but once i got the hang of it, it was like second nature. You hardly have to move after taking one shot and working the action to have another shot ready.


PCP's are very accurate thanks to the lack of recoil, but I find them quite easy to shoot as compared to springers. That may bore some people, but not me!

7 Comments on Review by Ken. for Air Arms S410 Carbine .22 (FAC)

1. Ken on 27th Aug 2003

   *update*
   
   to use the full 25 shots as stated by Air Arms, i found that my S410 Carbine likes a fill of about 195 bar. there's virtually no POI change for all of the 25 shots.

2. Bertie on 4th Sep 2003

   Ken........Your review was a joy to read. A masterpiece of alliterative enconiumum unchallenged in these hallowed pages.
   
   Dylan Thomas - eat you heart out!

3. Ken on 12th Sep 2003

   Thanks Bertie. I just wish that I had another PCP rifle right now so that I could make a more fair judgement. I know that most PCP's are similar in performance, so it'd be easier to be more critical if I had another PCP that I liked.
   
   *update 2*
   have since been able to close my 50 yard groups to 7/8 of an inch.

4. Glenn001 on 29th Oct 2003

   Hi Ken, I found your review of this rifle to be very thorough. I am about to purchase one of these FAC rifles here in the U.K. so your comments are invaluable. I was particularly intrigued with your comment about a barrel shroud and wondered if you could elaborate further on this, ie. is it an Air Arms standard fit or is it your own retrofit ? A picture would be helpful to me if that is possible.
   Best Wishes and safe shooting.
   Glenn

5. Ken on 2nd Nov 2003

   the barrel has a built in shroud and is baffled from the factory. visit this page(http://www.straightshooters.com/ourtake/ots410carbine.html). the picture is exactly what my S410 Carbine looks like. if you click on the "Our Take" link, you will read their opinions on the S410 series in general and under "Velocity Test Results" you will see what kinds of velocities their particular S410 Carbine shot with a variety of different pellets. when i chronoed my S410 after i had it for a couple of weeks, i expected to eventually see an increase in velocities due to the hammer's spring being broken in within a couple of months or so (what i hear is a phenomena common to many pcp's), but the velocities have remained stable at 860-885 fps or so with JSB Exact 5.52 mm pellets. other people report similar velocities from their S410 Carbines with the same pellet.
   
   i have not performed any kind of decibel test, but from experiences, my shrouded S410 Carbine doesn't sound any louder than my super magnum springers (Diana 350 Magnum, Webley Patriot). the kind of sound it makes is a lot different from a springer. most of the sound from spring guns seems to come from the mechanical movements of the spring. with a PCP, you can tell that the dominant sound is a surge of air. therefore, from different places in reference to where the gun is being shot, it may be louder in different places than where springers may sound loud. however, from what my hunting buddies tell me about my gun and from what i can hear from other people's PCP's, whenever we hunt with someone who has a moderated PCP, the sound is not very noticeable from 50 yards away. an non moderated 30 fp PCP, though, is a totally different story. it is loud!
   
   i'd like to also say that i have added a weaver v16 4-16x40 (replaced my bushnell trophy 4-12x40) to my gun and with the increased magnification, my best 5 shot groups while on a rest at 50 yards have closed to about 2/3". at 10 yards, i have shot groups tighter than 1/8".
   
   if you would like a little quieter gun with more shots per fill and don't mind a few extra inches, take a look at the S410 Classic (H). it uses less air per shot than the Carbine model and i think the shrouded model has more baffles. most report 30-35 consistant shots with the S410H and about the same power level as the S410K.

6. chatty on 17th Jul 2006

   i have got a s410 classic and i want to turn it up but i dont no how to so will any one be able to tell me how to turn one up please cheers

7. robbie4231 on 27th Sep 2006

   I have used an air arms s410 HP for about 5 years, power output about 35 fpt it is a cracking gun and not many suppliers have bettered it, if you know of a better hi powered multi liteweight please let me know.

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