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By Keith Picard. on 14th Jun 2003

Keith Picard.'s Ratings

Addiction Level	5/10
Value for money	5/10
Overall value	5/10
Keith Picard.'s recommendation

Good Points

I love this Game. It has the British weapons and you can lie down and shoot. I love the Bren Gun, As a boy I herd many stories of this wepon from my uncle who was over there in ww2.

Bad Points

Where are the Canadians? The Canadians where a big part of ww2, ww1, the war in Korea and many others

General Comments

It is a shame that the Canadians were omitted in The Day Of Defeat. The Canadian beach head on June 6th 1944 was called Juno Beach. All three Canadian services shared in the assault. Fourteen thousand Canadians landed on Juno the first day.
On August 19th 1942 5,000 Canadians were in the Dieppe Raid. Out of the 5,000 whom landed on that day 2.210 returned to England. Many of these men were wounded. There were 3,367 casualties, including 1,946 prisoners of war, 907 Canadians lost their lives. This country served in Sicly, Italy, Burma, India, Hong Kong, France, Holland and all over the world. I hope you are listening. Keith T. Picard

17 Comments on Review by Keith Picard. for Day of Defeat for PC

1. !Canuck!. on 16th Jun 2003

   I think this review is right on. Your map called,"The Battle of Caen" is missing the Canadians. Canadians were the main fighting force in the liberation of Caen. (By the way I believe it was they, The Canucks, who did liberate it). So where are the Canadian skins? I think the company who made this game should have done their war history home work. Lest We Forget. Jonny Canuck SPEAK OUT CANADA.

2. Nofster. on 19th Jun 2003

   Liked the game also. I also have the same question about "Where are the Canadians?"
   
   HIstorical accuracy does add to game playing qualities.... Canada had third largest air force, trained the most Allied pilots, had the third largest navy IN THE WORLD. Canadians spearheaded landings at D Day, breaking the German defensive backs at the battle for Caen, and drove up Holland and accross the Rhine. The Germans nicknamed the Canadian army the "British SS". We were known as tough and ready fighters, full of vim and courage.

3. James Cooper. on 24th Jun 2003

   I agree with Keith. Canadians played a key part in WWII and shouldn't be forgotten by the American authors of this game. It's a great game, but adding some Canadian skins, as well as a scenario/map involving Juno beach, would add a whole new demension to the game, while keeping it as historically accurate as it tries to be. As Jonny mentioned, the Battle of Caen should be fixed as well.

4. Mike Slaunwhite on 15th Nov 2003

   I whole heartly agree with all the above. My stats on WW2 are slim at best, but I do know this much, if it wasn't for the canadians, the end of WW2 would not have ended when it did.
   
   Now where are those DOD skins....
   
   I found a Canadian Flag so far....(You guys must be joking...just a flag!)

5. Joyce Pope on 12th Dec 2003

   Technically WWII wouldn't have ended unless the Russians had invaded and successfully captured Berlin, and a select few European scientists immagrated to the west to help design the first Nuclear Bomb in the Manhattan project.

6. Mike Slaunwhite on 16th Dec 2003

   I appreciate your furthering my limited knowledge of WW2, Russians, and etc. Everyone had a part to play, and died for just to give us a warm bed, a roof over our heads, and the priviledge to go to a supermarket when we feel like it...thanks.
   
   What I really mean't by my comment was that if you take out one element of WW2 as we know it today, the war would not have ended when it did. There are those who would disagree, but without Canadians in the war it might have caused the war to go on for alot longer. Take Canada out, and you leave a very large hole.
   
   Such as the battles over Britan...some of the top pilots were the best pilots of the battles. I do know this for a fact, if Canada did not join and help the Brits out when we did, Britain could have very well been overrun, and defeated....How about the Naval corvettes which made safe passage for so many ships of north atlantic? How about D-Day? How about anything our fathers did in WW2?
   
   The only country that still holds true to remembering is Britan. Especially when we had our problems with Spain and over fishing, the Brits stood up, and backed Canada and said "we remember what you did for us in WW2".
   
   Also, correct me if I'm wrong. I did some quick reading, and there was a Canadian platoon that made it deeper into Russia than any other country, and fought beside Russians troops.
   
   I do understand that every country that fought agaisn't Hitler should have a credit somewhere in DOD, and perhaps one day, all countries can be represented in a WW2 game...but for now I'll keep reading, and searching.
   
   Chat later everyone!

7. ScottChsv on 1st Feb 2004

   Man you guys gave it a 5. Thought you would have given it a higher rating. Day Of Defeat was kinda like what it is over there as it is in New Zealand, Not many people playing dod but today after all the updates (lol) people are starting to play the game which is great. I'm sure it'll pick up some day for you guys.

8. KursE on 1st Feb 2004

   Hahahaha I'm from New Zealand
   We had a part too, but yet not even a flag
   GET OVER IT YOU WANNA BE YANKS :P

9. CCMagazine on 6th Feb 2004

   Ok, stop complaining about there being no Canadians, its just having the main forces in World War 2, which were The United States, and The Germans. Your complaining about 1 map not having Canadians, which was Caen. Why would the makers of the game want to make completely new models and weapons for one single map. They don't have the Japanese and they were a large force in World War 2. If you feel so offended that they dont have Canadians then go start your own modding team and make whatever changes you want.

10. alexgta3 on 17th Feb 2004

    Hey if you wanna see the canadians buy battlefield 1942 in the patch 1.6 theres the map caen with the canadians! :)

11. plasmatic on 5th Mar 2004

    Excellent point Alex; that's exactly what I did. I no longer play DOD. Instead, I'm now a BF1942 fan.
    
    In response to CCMagazine, it would have been nice to include the Japanese as well, since, as you said, they were involved too. But unfortunately they didn't include either, which is one reason why BF1942 has undoubtedly enjoyed more success than DOD. If you're going to make a game based on historical events, it better be historically correct. By saying that the Americans and Germans were the "main forces" we're completely neglecting the fact that this was a World War and that many other countries were not only involved, but key to it's resolution. Since Canadian forces made a not-so-insignificant effect during the course of this war, and the events portrayed in this game, one would expect to see that reflected in the gameplay. Without it, one gets the sense that the entire war (at least from the eyes of the developers) was just the Americans vs. the Germans.

12. rotccanuck1 on 5th Mar 2004

    Keith T. Picard Letter Sent to EA Technical Support
    Dear Sirs,
    
    I am writing to you today because of the of the need for Canadian skins. I noticed the Canadian uniform and helmet in your game, Break Through. You call it (IT-6th Army Coastal Div. The Canadians are not only on the wrong side. (You put it on the German side) It also seems that you have forgotten the Canadians and their place in history.
    
    The Canadians fought in Hong Kong, The Battle of Britain, The Battle of The Atlantic, Dieppe, Sicily, North Africa, Italy, Normandy, Netherlands, The Rhineland and our people served all over the world. Out of a population of 11.5 million we had over 1 million people in uniform, 10% of our population. We had the 3rd largest navy, army and air force in the world. Our soldiers were considered 2nd to none.
    
    The Defense of Hong Kong: The Royal Rifles of Canada and The Winnipeg Grenadiers. These two battalions were sent to Hong Kong to help bolster the British regiments that were there. When Hong Kong fell they were taken as pensioners of war by the Japanese.
    
    The Dieppe Raid: On August 19th 1942 5,000 Canadians took part in a raid in Dieppe France. Out of the 5,000 Canadian soldiers that landed on the beaches that day only 2’210 returned to England, and many of these were wounded. There were 3,367 casualties, including 1,946 prisoners of war; 907 Canadians lost their lives.
    
    On D-Day June 6th 1944. The Canadian beach was called Juno Beach. Approximately 14,000 Canadians landed in Normandy on D-Day. Out of the 14,000 we had 1,074 casualties, of which 359 were fatal. The Canadian Army was the only army to take all their objectives on the first day. I hope that you go to the web sites below. They will explain all.
    
    http://www.junobeach.org/Centre/index.html This is a web site that you must take the time to look through.
    http://www.waramps.ca/military/photos.html Here are some more facts about Canada
    http://www.yesnet.yk.ca/schools/projects/canadianhistory/canadaatwar/canadawar.html
    These are some of the weapons that we used in ww2. The Sten Gun is missing.
    
    In the movie, The Great Escape, missing are the Canadian Air men who helped dig the tunnels, Tom, Dick and Harry (the name of the three tunnels). The air man whom got all the documents that the allies could copy, was a Canadian officer.
    
    I am sending copies of this letter to all concerned. By the way your map called Caen. Missing are the Canadians. It was the 3rd Canadian Infantry Division, supported by the 2nd Canadian Armored Brigade that liberated Caen.
    
    Sincerely, Keith T. Picard

13. Chris123 on 12th Mar 2004

    The only thing that the USA did was fight Japan, the USA didn\'t even join until Pearl Harbour was destroyed. They defended a few islands and dropped a few nukes and badda bing badda boom they took credit for winning the war. The major players in the war were Britan, Germany, Canada, Russia, and Italy. Sure the US gave the winning blow but thats about it.

14. Chris123 on 12th Mar 2004

    Let me make a correction. The mayjor players were Britan, Russia, Japan, Germany, Canada, and USA (not in any particular order).

15. alexgta3 on 12th Mar 2004

    Yes and we may had china who lost 2 million men in the war vs japan in WW2.

16. Joyce Pope on 6th May 2004

    Actually the US also fought Rommel in North Africa, and with the combined efforts of the Brits managed to push him out of Africa all together.

17. annoded with speilberg on 9th Aug 2004

    Sorry, Operation Torch which were the American landings after the main battles for El Alamain and Torbruk were a near disaster for the U.S. troops and they needed major retraining before they were fit for the landings in Italy, etc... basically, at the start of the U.S. involvemnt in the war in Europe, they needed a lot of help from the people who had alredy been fighting the war for almost 4 years.
    However, the commitment from the free French, the Dutch underground, the Polish (particularly in the uprising in Warsaw) and so on was far greater than that of the Americans who were making in a tidy buck sending over equipment and so forth that the Brits, French and Canadians are still paying for. Now, I am not detracting the sacrifice the U.S. solders made in the latter part of the war, but the point is they did not do it alone and there had been an awful lot of hardship before they joined up. This is rarely recognised by any of the big media houses in the U.S., Hollywood, EA games and whatever.

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