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Reviewer Rating	7.4/10
Overall Rating	8.1/10

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By GenghisKaStang. on 1st Apr 2003

GenghisKaStang.'s Ratings

Value for money	10/10
Overall value	10/10
GenghisKaStang.'s recommendation

Good Points

This gun have a firm weight, can hang about 60-80 shot in one co2, pretty powerful, and grip safety.

Bad Points

only 8 shot, co2 powered, trigger is harder to fire in double action, no co2 and pellet include in box.

General Comments

Over all this is a pretty good pistol, I got it a few month, maybe the weight of the gun, I never miss a coke can in 20 feet, this gun can shoot like 60-80 shot in one co2, my experience is after 60 shot, power is clearly decreasing, but it can still punch through 2 layer of card board. The bad part on this gun is only 8 shot, it's a pain reloading the gun without a reloader, trigger is harder to fire in double action, you need to pull it more to the back than in single action. Overall, this is a gun for people who want a brand name pistol, and beretta 92 is too expensive to afford, I definity didn't regret about buying the colt instead of beretta.

31 Comments on Review by GenghisKaStang. for Uramex/Daisy/colt Colt Govn't 1911A1

1. bob. on 8th May 2003

   how would u compare this gun to say a walther cp99 or a beretta 92fs? How powerful is it?

2. coltclay. on 10th May 2003

   I purchased a colt 1911A1 air pistol early this year and i find it is exceptionally powerful for an air pistol. I stood about 30 feet away from a piece of fiberglass blend fire resistant gypsum wallboard and fired away and was impressed that the pellets stuck all the way into the drywall and didnt bounce off. I would defineatly recommend this pistol to anyone looking for a powerful, nice looking air pistol.

3. De-Bunker. on 26th May 2003

   Oh dear, the power thing again. It shoots at 400fps, meaning it spits pellets out at about 2ft.lbs, meaning it's _not_ very powerful.
   
   It's not about power, when are you kids going to get that?

4. SixmanGenghisKa. on 29th May 2003

   Well, in my opinion it's a POWERFUL pistol, this gun can kill rat, yes kill.
   Note: this is a pistol, not a rifle, anyway I wouldn't want to get shot by one.

5. sgt gunman. on 29th May 2003

   IF FIRE THE SLUGS OVER THE SPEED METER, IT READS
   LITTLE OVER 400FPS AND IT WORKS IT OUT 3.2FTLBS. THORY IS ONE THING BUT IN PRACTICE IS ANOTHER, SO
   CO2 GUNS GO AT 3.2FTIBS YOU IDOT. ALSO YOU CAN TAKE
   THE GUN APART MODIFY THE GUN TO SHOOT AT 8FTLBS, YES
   YOU CAN BY CUTTING THE 2 COILS OF THE SPRING IN BEHIND THE SEALS (THIS NAKES THE SEAL OPEN LONGER
   ALLOWRING MORE GAS TO FIRE )
   
   
   
   
   
   

6. Cade. on 30th May 2003

   De-bunker: seriously man I've been reading some reaviews and its always the same thing with you - always trying to state that these pistols are not powerful. Well, what do you mean by powerful? Let me give you my definition of power for co2 pistols: If I shoot you with it at around 5-10 meters and it pierces your skin and makes you squeel than its powerful enough. It all depends on what you want to do with it...if I wanted to kill I would go out and get a firearm...like a desert eagle for example.
   
   Of course we cant forget that these are just training weapons - if youi can shoot these guns you wont find a huge difference with a firearm. Nevertheless, they still make effective self defence weapons if you want to scratch but not kill.

7. De-Bunker. on 31st May 2003

   Er Cade, Dude, it's not the same thing with me, it's the same power thing with the kids that buy these things, and spout off on here Everybody claims their pistol is 'powerful', but they don't understand much about guns, or airpistols even.
   
   In the UK, the legal limit for an airpistol is 6 ft.lbs. So a 'powerful' airpistol would therefore be close to this limit. C02 pistols, however, produce little over two feet pounds (and to the kid who reckons you an get a 1911 to produce 8 ft.lbs, your mates have been lying to you, there's no way. You'd need to increase the barrel length to about the same as that on a Crosman Ratcatcher, you've got about 900psi to work with, no more, fiddling with a couple of springs isn't going to change that, and as this gun is 0.177 calibre, you get less force applied to the pellet as the sectional area of a 0.177 pellet is less. Go read a physics text book kids.)
   
   Where were we? Ah yes, kids thinking 2ft.lbs+ out of a legal limit of 6ft.lbs is powerful. Well, it isn't, is it? It isn't even powerful compared to other pistols on the market. In C02, in multishot, we have the Anics Skif, Daisy 622x, and Crosman 2210, producing about 4ft.lbs (last two in .22, as C02 produces better results in 0.22 calibre, are you listening children?). In C02 Single shot, there's the Sheridan EB20, and Crosman 2240 getting to about 5 ft.lbs.
   
   Or there's the Brocock TAC range, pre-charged air TACS, producing about 5ft.lbs+.
   
   Or you have spring powered pistols, like the HW45, which are close to the limit. Of course, that makes the HW45 three times more powerful that the claimed 'powerful' CO2 Colt 1911, ....
   
   If you shot me with one of these pistols, well, you'd go to jail. As responsible shooters we shouldn't talk about such things. As for keeping one for self defense, well as I live in the UK, that would get me in jail, as recent changes to UK law mean if I brandish an airgun with the intent to scare, it gets dealt with as a firearms offence, and that means 5 years in jail perhaps. We have this thing about using 'minimum force' see, we can't just go popping caps at strangers.
   
   Oh, and pistols certainly aren't powerful enough for hunting, not even rats. Go buy something closer to the legal limit. All prey deserves a clean, humane despatch. 2ft.lbs+ is just not enough.
   
   This review centre is populated by kids who make wild claims and have very little shooting experience. It's obvious when you see the scores awarded to a pistol, 10, in this case, ... so it's the perfect pistol then? Or is Junior in love with his plinker? I think the latter.
   
   Just trying to bring some objectivity, if you don't like it, tough, that's life, liars will eventually get called.

8. SixmanGenghisKa. on 3rd Jun 2003

   De-Bunker, very funny, so you are like 60 something years old and still play airgun with kids. I think everyone here had study their physics already, and yes, this place is made popular by kids, what do you know? I bet many people here are under 21, after all people can get a real gun after 21, and airgun in my view is for people who want to play gun but not 21 yet. so if you don't like kids, tough, get a real gun. And, I am in US, not UK.

9. De-Bunker. on 4th Jun 2003

   Er, Genghis dude, I used to shoot real guns, but we lost that privilege five years ago after the Dunblane shootings. So we're left with long barreled pistols, which are ridiculous, black powder guns, which are a PITA, or c02. So guess which I shoot now?
   
   And to restate, it's considered really bad form to hunt with pistols, esp low powered c02 pistols. Real hunters won't condone it, it's just not humane.
   
   And I'd like to think that the kids spouting rubbish on this site are a lot younger than 21. Their spelling, grammar, and sheer lack of rational thought concern me. I wouldn't trust such a bunch of dumbasses with a water pistol, let alone a lower powered c02 pistol.
   
   But then, I guess that's why, when you get to 21, you folks kill the same percentage of people with firearms accidentally, as the UK has gun homicides.

10. sgt usa. on 5th Jun 2003

    debunker but a shot at close range will peice the skin, even though it only 3ftlbs
    
    
    they are good weapons, with mine you even get a muzzle flash, when gas shoots out the barrel you see a white 'flash' of gas..

11. De-Bunker. on 6th Jun 2003

    Sgt USA, I could stab you in the arm with a pencil from close range and break the skin. That doesn't make a pencil 'powerful'. btw, it's about 2.5ft.lbs, not 3. Muzzle 'flash'. the 'flash' merely escaping c02.

12. SNK. on 11th Jul 2003

    Er... why is it being CO2 a bad point?!

13. Gonzo. on 15th Jul 2003

    Hey, De-Bunker (or anybody else that wants to comment), what is the best Co2 pistol that you can buy under $150? I've been looking at the Gamo PT-80 and several other pistols, but I am still undecided. What do ya'll think about the PT-80. There's been alot of good reviews on it, but I don't know how much credibility they have. Any comments would be appreciated.
    
    
    

14. D-man. on 21st Jul 2003

    Would'nt it be nice if the people on this site could stick to the content at hand? These kind of arguements are the reason why people look at target shooters like killers in training. If there are kids under 21 on this site, we should set a better example. Grow up and think about what you are writing in your comments.

15. De-Bunker. on 22nd Jul 2003

    SNK, nothing wrong with it being CO2, it's just we have to remember just what these things are, low powered air pistols, styled after real handguns. They aren't powerful, nor especially accurate. Muzzle flash, isn't a flash, it's just the CO2 escaping, as expected, not an indication of power.
    
    Gonzo, good CO2 pistols? As many answers as people! I've got an S&W 586, 6", which is about as accurate as these things get, and has a really nice trigger. There's the Anics SKIF A3000, which after it's worn in and you've got used to the trigger pull, is decent, but has a 28 round magazine capacity, and shoots at 4 ft.lbs, so a real good tin rattler!
    
    Go and pick a few up, feel is everything. Weight, grips, balance all need to be experienced. Heard good things about the PT-80, and some bad things, so wouldn't like to say.
    
    What features do you want? How many shots? Power? Adjustable sights. as standard? Walther CP88 is well respected, but you have to pay extra for adjustable sights. If you're only plinking though, at fairly short ranges, you might not need them.
    

16. Moley on 5th Aug 2003

    Hey De-Bunker,
    Time to teach these yanks a leston on basic firearm theory, me thinks.
    
    1. CO2 pistols, such as the 1911s are NOT, repeat NOT powerful but...
    
    2. I personally think (and many others will agree) that they are better because they are available in semi-automatic, meaning less loading, more fun to operate - It's a personall thing - NOT A GOOD OR BAD POINT. Like: steak or pie, CO2 or pre-compressed. With me so far, kids?
    
    3. THEY'RE NOT TOYS. If you kids are talking about carrying them around for self-defence you shouldn't own one.
    
    4. Don't "contribrute" unless you KNOW what you're talking about. I've owned several CO2 pistols and a couple of REAL guns (before the dublane shooting) and I still haven't got my co2 pistols guru certificate. If I couldn't give a USEFULL verdict on a gun you kids wouldn't have a hope on hell.
    
    5. Being Mr. Bigman doesn't get you anywhere in life. It just lowers peoples opinion of you. So don't go around saying 'I got my CO2 gun up to 8lb.ft by playing with the springs' it makes you look stupid - not cool.

17. DeserteagleXIX on 27th Aug 2003

    In my oppinion, the terms "powerful" and "accurate" do apply to airguns although they are in NO WAY comparable to real firearms, I am from Holland but I moved to the states and I have all gun owning privaleges. I am 21, I own a Daisy 693 and a HFC P8 USP (Airsoft).
    
    I have no personal experience with the more expensive M1911, but it seems it's quite decent...I have to admit I fired at grackels before with my 693, and it only bounced off on them, which was good, because I needed to scare them, not kill them...
    
    Rats...hah...no...you need at LEAST a .22cal pellet to kill a rat...but as Debunker stated, it's inhumane.
    
    Self defense? maybe when you are at home alone...have nothing else but your airgun, a burgelar will be scared of an air pistol.
    but carrying it on the streets can be bad...although law in the states allow you to carry the gun as long as it's concealed and unloaded, you should not use it as self defense...buy a REAL fire arm if you need defense or a pocket knife for that matter...
    
    power is not everything with a air gun...I rather have accuracy...

18. DeBunker on 1st Oct 2003

    Bertie, judging the writing ability of 'thegunner' I think he's probably young and dumb enough to actually think it's a good idea.
    
    And while he probably lacks the ability to attempt any modification, it doesn't mean that others reading this rot won't have the means at their disposal to try.
    
    So, even though he was talking rubbish, it still needs pointing out, as there are young impressionable kids on here. There's scant else!

19. Bertie on 1st Oct 2003

    DeBunker...how right you are. It is painfully obvious that not only carbon monoxide exits his rear orifice but verbal ordure too..
    Being a relative newcomer to the Internet, I have no real idea of how sites like this one really work. I know any objectionable material can be refused a posting or removed after posting. Someone is editing or moderating but he/she cannot know everything.
    
    As I believe SAFETY is THE number one consideration in our sport/hobby/interest, I wish it were possible that the gun section - especially the air weapons, as the youngsters will inevitably be attracted - could have its own editor/moderator to weed out at source such postings as from 'thegunner', which do no sevice to anyone whatsoever and are potentially lethal to boot.
    
    Got a Smith&Wesson 586 6in. yesterday and have just used up a second capsule. Muzzle energy is between 2 and 2.5 foot pounds and I had 65 shots fom the first capsule and 68 from the second and I'm having great fun - which is what I bought it for.
    I'll have more to write about it in due course.
    See you around - Bertie.

20. DeBunker on 10th Oct 2003

    Hi Bertie, got a 586 myself, nice pistol. Yeah, 2 to 2.5 ft.lbs, so not a power house, but a pretty fine trigger for a co2.
    
    Yeah, a moderator for this section would be good. Like you say, the current mods can't know everything.

21. alextimmons on 17th Nov 2003

    First off, I am not looking for an argument, and am not trying to smash any particular person.
    
    I think most people would agree that I would be stating the obvious if I said that most of the heated comments about this particular Co2 Pistol sound like they are coming from kids.
    
    I think what people are failing to realize is that this pistol is a replica (rep·li·ca) that is intended for fun in-your-garage type shooting. He has a point in saying that it is not that powerful or accurate, but what he doesn't get is the fact that most people purchase these pistols for one reason, they look like the real thing. There has to be room for all types of Co2 guns, because if it were left up to him, there would only be co2 guns that shoot at 3000FPS and are accurate to the milimeter at 20 yards/meters. I do understand that everyone who is posting here is entitled to their opinion, and most of them have valid points, but Debunker has to step off of his podium and realize that most accurate and powerful Co2 pistols look like something off of Men in Black, and not everyone wants that.
    
    The thrill of shooting something that looks and feels like the real thing is what most people want, along with the fact that it is safe enough to be used in a garage with a proper backdrop.
    
    I am looking into purchasing a Colt Gold Cup Co2 pistol with a 30mm BSA red dot sight, and am hoping that this gun lives up to its reputation. I am not interested in dropping some $400 on a competetion air pistol, because theres something for everyone...

22. Erik on 26th Nov 2003

    I have been reading the arguments here and I have to agree with De-Bunker. CO2 pistols are not powerful compared to a firearm. I use CO2 pistols for training up to a firearm. It's not something you should carry around, concealed or not. Though, I've heard joggers and runners carry a CO2 pistol for safety against stray dogs, which is fine. It's also good for having in the house in case of a burglary that will scare the person breaking in because of the sound.
    
    There's no muzzle flash, like De-Bunker said. It's just CO2 escaping, where else would it go? I owned a CPSport and CO2 escaped from the sides creating a 'smoke' reaction like a firearm, but that doesn't mean it's powerful. I enjoy shooting these guns as target practice or just plinking. Everyone should know these are not toys and can hurt or kill you, I won;t get into that though. Just have fun with it, and shoot safely.

23. 45 Competition Shooter on 30th Nov 2003

    Why is everyone comparing C02 pistols(or any airgun for that matter) to firearms? If you would just compare airguns to airguns, you would be fine. Although I do see how you could make your point to some people only by comparing airguns to firearms. Some people are so ignorant...

24. DeBunker on 1st Dec 2003

    Careful there Alextimmons, you're off the mark a little. Nowhere have I said that co2 pistol have to be accurate or powerful. What I have said, is that the reviewers on here claiming their replica pistols are, are misled.
    
    I own two replica pistols myself, and an Anics pistol, which is a styled like a semi-auto. I understamd the limits of their power and accuracy, and am merely trying to bring some objectivity to these reviews.

25. alextimmons on 1st Dec 2003

    I couldn't agreee more! Its just so simple. I think it just starts to happen when people bring "power" into the scene...

26. alextimmons on 4th Dec 2003

    My apologies if I said something that wasn't true...

27. hotrod on 7th Dec 2004

    First off, DeBunker...my hat is off to you. People these are not toys. They can injure. Add to that these homemade, crazy ideas to get more power is insane. I am not a prude, but safety is a must. I am an Air Force veteren, trained on the M-16a and learned real fast the reality of firearm safety. Shoot safe today so you can teach your kids the fun of target shooting. SHOOT SAFE EVERYONE. DeBunker please keep the tech info streaming, you're very informative. Thanks.

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29. sallyman on 11th Jan 2005

    I am UK resident & have enjoyed shooting for 25 years now, respectively as UK law has changed, full-bore 44 Magnum Pistols & various Rifles, .22 Air & various CO2 weapons. I am also a Safety Adviser at work. Listening to all the commentary I can only say that no matter what age, experience or reason you enjoy shooting, there is only one standard that applies:
    Safety, Safety, Safety.
    That's Safety First, Safety in Use & Safety Last. I cannot emphasize enough the amount & severity of every-day accidents & injuries that occur through though lazyness & neglect, which makes us each all the more responsible when handling & using weapons whose pedigrees primary function was/is to cause accidents & injuries.
    Shooting, in whatever style, is great fun. Going to prison for manslaughter or injury, whether accidental or otherwise, I can assure you, is not.
    Hope you all enjoy good, fun & most of all, safe shooting.

30. Boris on 23rd Jan 2005

    Oh boy! Intellectual heaven
    
    How far is the accuracy and power of a Umarex Colt affected by the size of your hand (grip safety), what you are wearing - T shirt or shirt and necktie, atmospheric pressure ambient temperature etc.
    
    Cutting three coils of the spring is better - all the CO2 will go in one discharge !!!

31. nath22 on 22nd Jul 2007

    Hey, if anyone even uses this website anymore by looking at the dates (2005), anyway i have a question I'm new to the air gun world and i want to buy a powerful but yet obviously not an illegal airgun I've been looking at this HW45 German made (i think) hand gun and it says its well the most powerful hand gun yet I'm willing to pay 200 odd pound for it but is it worth it? If anyone owns one or knows if its legal or not to own one without a FAC please give me some info thanks.

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