Citroen C5 2.0 HDi SX Hatch Review

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rickhough's review of Citroen C5 2.0 HDi SX Hatch

“I have been watching and waiting for HDi SX Citroen...”

★★★★★

written by rickhough on 28/09/2005

Good Points
Spacious, economical, reliable, comfortable and cheap to buy and run.

Bad Points
No wash wipe for the rear tailgate which was a definite oversight by Citroen accountants. The interior is wearing a bit in places and the suspension height buttons should be located somewhere they can't be knocked by accident (or by small fingers).

General Comments
I have been watching and waiting for HDi SX Citroen C5's to drop to the £3000 mark and my 01 plate car (2001) cost me a shade over that on Ebay. It had done 97k miles and this was August 2005.



I know Citroens inside out and have run them (11 in all) since 1991 including BX (4), ZX(1), Xantias (5) and now the C5. Prior to that I had 40 cars from Land Rovers to MGs and I have always worked on my own cars, including nut and bolt rebuilds of classics. I currently own two Xantias (a 1995 - 200k miles and still A1, and a 2001 estate - 136k miles and perfect) and the C5.



The C5 is the smoothest Citroen I've owned - in fact the smoothest car I've owned or ridden in (including Jensen, Bentley, Mercedes and Rolls Royce cars). This is a passengers friend and despite being a high mileage cheapy car it performs very well all round and looks much more modern than German cars who's designers appear to be stuck in the 1990s.



All of the gadgets and gizzmos work properly (as they have in every Citroen I have owned, apart from the ZX which lost its rear demister) and the car rides quietly and without any drama.



The rain sensing wipers and lights work fine and as far as I can see the only thing that is going to bug me in the future is changing the headlamp bulbs as everything else is pretty much the same as the Xantia.



The car is much bigger on the inside than the Xantia and the screen is further away. In the back the kids have much more leg room - I would estimate that an extra 30 cms of knee space has been freed up over the Xantia, more like the XM in size. The fabrics are comfortable and the car has loads of useful cubby holes and trays (e.g. under the seats).



The ceiling is also much higher and with the sunroof (a work of genius with 20 different settings plus autoclosure) it is a bright and family friendly interior, almost as big as an MPV I would say. The digital aircon is very good and allows you to split between left and right (different temperatures).



The dash and controls are very well laid out although the steering wheel should adjust for reach as well as rake and I haven't found a lever for that yet. The one interior bug bear is the height control buttons that are easy to knock or drop things onto



Eight air bags and thicker A and C pillars make the C5 feels much safer than the Xantia. With ESP and a bigger, stronger shell it actually is much safer too according to NCAP. In fact it is rated as safer than any other car if you take into account pedestrian safety too!



Performance is what you expect from a diesel with slightly more pep than my Xantia HDi in the mid range but slightly less go from the standing start. This is probably just down to a difference in gearing although the wheels are the same size on both cars and the drive train identical.



Pushing on the car does not feel as competent around the corners as the Xantia Estate - there is no 'sport' button on my car - but it still sticks like glue and just rolls slightly more mid corner, probably due to the slightly softer suspension.



It always inspires confidence and it is only when you 'explore the envelope' you feel as though there is a slight yaw half way through a corner. Suffice to say the C5 is not designed to be driven like a TVR. If you want a track day car get a Caterham, if you want a passenger car, get a C5. These cars are so cheap you should have enough change for that R500!



Driving hard drops the economy down to a 22mpg average (yes I know, but that is going quite fast at peak revs and keeping pace with much 'sportier' vehicles) and if I cruise for an hour at 1200 rpm in top I can get that out to 75 mpg.



Using the torque of the engine and not exceeding 2000 rpm means you can easily keep up with the traffic and still get 65 mpg - such is the flexibility of the HDi engine.



I like almost everything about this car and even the looks, which I hated in 2001 when I first saw them rolling round Slough, have mellowed. All manufacturers in this sector now seem to have gone for the high swept lamps and sharp back end.



Inside the car is wearing a little. Specifically the door handles have a nasty plastic coating that is peeling off and the carpet attached to the back seats (load space when folded) has completely detatched with one panel of carpet missing. Apart from that the seats are perfect and all the other plastics are fine, even those that have a painted finish (silver effect) are not worn.



There are a couple of rub marks on the headlining, probably where boxes have been shoved in - but this is a family hack, not a concours queen and it will last us five years and provide cheap, comfortable and safe motoring. My wife finds the car easy to drive and is also impressed with the whole vehicle.



Externally the car has few stone chips despite the mileage and my only criticism is the black rubber surrounding the door window frame has ruptured and is showing rusty metal.



It may have been split at some time but the steel beneath should have been treated at the factory. This is a minor issue and can probably be fixed for a fiver when more of these cars start to hit the scrap yard.



The alloys are easy to clean although easily kerbed and I may fit a wider section tyre than the 195s that are currently fitted to see if the handling improves.



I've marked the car reliability high because I have confidence it and it's technology. I know people who have had them from new with zero faults and I know that Citroens that are cared for properly are 100% reliable.



Be aware though that I have only owned the car for two months. I will update my review with any problems I encounter along the way.

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Sharpest's Response to rickhough's Review

Written on: 12/10/2005

Fantastic review!
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<br>Been to look at a used 2002 C5 with 103 thousand miles on the clock tonight.
<br>You have put our minds at rest and will be buying the car with confidance now after reading the reviews on Review Centre.
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<br>Will be snapping it up at £3,495 asap and adding our own review when we have had it a few months.
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<br>Thanks again for the info you have added.

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Rickh's Response to rickhough's Review

Written on: 12/06/2012

Update 190k miles - C5 is still doing 500 miles a week and returning 50 - 60 mpg with ease. Everything still works but I have replaced the alloy wheels (tyres were worn) with Exclusive items for £100 including a set of nearly new 205 tyres which has vastly improved handling. The exhaust (all original) is now 11 years old and has started to blow but only £250 to replace the lot including cat. Also just had the belts and pulleys changed with water pump (original was still fitted and working fine) so that should see us another 100k miles (£288 inc. VAT). Signs of corrosion on the unprotected suspension component but they are pretty solid so I won't fret just yet.

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Lightyearman's reply to Rickh's Comment

Written on: 03/01/2013

My dad recently bought a 2008 C5 estate to use as his taxi (1.6hdi VTR) and as i was impressed with the space and ride i decided to look for a cheapy early model as a work car.

I have just purchased today a 2002 model C5 saloon 2.0hdi LX. It has 185k miles on the clock but to look at and drive you would never tell. I'm unsure if its a 90 or 110bhp version, how do you tell?
The cambelt was changed 20k ago and the clutch about 90k ago, but still bites strong (unsure if it has dual mass flywheel, certainly hope not...)
I've bought it knowing it needs new glow plugs but these are £15 online and look easy enough to change. I was also advised that it is using a pint of water every 500 miles or so. After looking over the engine and checking the fluids i'm confident it isn't a headgasket problem so i will keep an eye on it and look for a leak.

The best part. The price. With 9 months mot and 4 months tax i just paid £225

£225!

Fingers crossed it handles my 400 mile a week comute through the countryside ok and i'll report again at 200k miles. Hopefully.

The interior seems to have survived the mileage well, externaly apart from a dent to the tailgate an a 2" scratch to the rear quarter it looks great!

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Rickh's reply to Lightyearman's Comment

Written on: 04/01/2013


You could get three times that purchase price by breaking it for parts so I would say you've grabbed a real bargain there, well done!!

I met a chap last year who had a Xantia he bought for £50 and it was still going strong after 4 years of hard service.

If your car has a black pipe going over the engine to the inter cooler at the front I think that means it's a 110, no pipe, no inter cooler should be a 90.

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Rickhough's Response to rickhough's Review

Written on: 10/09/2010

Another quick update as the car failed it's MOT (first time for everything!) because the fog lamp switch had failed. This is controlled by the indicator stalk and is therefore part of the Comms 2000 unit.
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<br/>I removed it and found that a springy copper contact had broken and noted that all of the contacts were past their best.
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<br/>At 160k miles I'm not too suprised and a new one was only &pound;170.00 from the dealer. It took me 20 minutes to fit and all is fine again. Looking forward to the next 160k miles now!

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Rickhough's Response to rickhough's Review

Written on: 16/04/2010

Update - the car has now covered 150,000 miles so I thought I would update my original review.
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<br/>Basically nothing has gone wrong with the car apart from the engine cover rubber bolts coming adrift (March 2010). This caused the oil cap to unscrew depositing oil over the engine bay, but it only cost me &pound;5 for a new cap from a Citroen dealer.
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<br/>I'm still getting excellent mpg and in fact we drove to Nantes (from Cheshire) last summer in one day and got 65 mpg on average (actual mpg not the computer readout).
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<br/>Since the original review I have used the car to tow a trailer and filled it with firewood, building materials and even gravel several times (the car as well as the trailer!) Despite this gross abuse the car's interior still scrubs up nice and is supremely comfortable.
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<br/>We also run a 2001 Alfa 156 and I have to say that after an hour in the Alfa I'm longing for the smooth steady progress of the C5! I am considering replacing the C5 (with one of the new ones), but I can't justify the change.

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