Walther NightHawk Review

★★★★☆
4.2 / 5
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hawaiiratkiller's review of Walther NightHawk

★★★★☆

“I purchased my Walther NightHawk just after Christmas...”

Written on: 10/02/2005 by hawaiiratkiller (4 reviews written)

Good Points
Accuracy
Appearance
Accessories
Handling
Realism
Workmanship

Bad Points
Power
VERY LOUD
Double Action Only

General Comments
I purchased my Walther NightHawk just after Christmas because I needed a gun to help with pest control around our yard and house.



I have been waiting to give my review because I wanted to spend some time with it target practicing and hoped to have shot a rat to see if it was powerful enough. I haven't had a chance to shoot a rat just yet, stay tuned for an update. I guess one guy successfuly shot a couple tree squirrels!



I must say that I am thoroughly impressed with the craftsmanship of this gun. It is an almost an exact replica of the P99. The P99 is an attractive looking pistol. You may have seen them in James Bond movies?



I really like how the CO2 chamber comes out like a ammo clip on the P99. It's just COOL! The gun handles well and is surprisingly accurate for a 3" rifled barrel. I believe the newly designed compensator is helping with the accuracy, certainly it is in the aesthetics!



I expected it to be awkward and heavy but it holds well and shoots accurately. Many people have claimed that it is hard to load the CO2 but I found it to be simple after a few tries. Many have also complained about pellets falling out of the clips. I recommend using Crosman Premiere pointed pellets. They hold nicely in the clips and never fall out, unless you drop the clip on the ground.



The gun can jam if you use pellets other than Crosman. However, you can increase velocity by using Gamo lightweight pellets. Do not use Beeman, they are too long for the clips and are designed for rifles. I have not had a pellet jam yet!



The gun has many accessories and I suspect that is what attracts most people to the gun. I bought it because I needed a hands free light to shoot rats at night and our avocado trees. The light is incredibly bright and works great. Be sure to order spare bulbs. (mine burnt out on night 7)



The red dot scope is OK. There are better ones on the market, but it works well enough and it works best in daylight shooting. During night the dot is too large and bright, even at the level 1 setting.



The compensator is cool and can be modified to reduce the report. It could probably be modified into a silencer, but that would require some metal work and creativity. It would also be illegal. If you do elect to modify the compensator, you will see some negative results in your grouping. I am not sure if damage results due to modification. Certainly the warranty is void afterwards.



The trigger pull is way to long and sometimes I find the trigger gets stuck and i need to open the loading chamber a few times to reset the chamber. Did I say the trigger pull is long? It is! VERY LONG! I really wished they used the CP99 for this gun, but my guess it would be too heavy and expensive. You can switch out the CPSport with the CP99 if you have one. That way you can get single and double-action. Single action provides a much more accurate shot!



All in all, this is a VERY fun gun to shoot! The accuracy is good but this is meant to be a short range plinking gun. Keep it in perspective folks.



If you want to hunt, get a rifle. If you want to target shoot, plink and squeeze off a few, CLOSE RANGE, well placed shots for varmint control. This is a good choice.



I will keep you posted on its power against Norway rats.



This gun doesn't get a ten because of its low power. But for all the accessories and its craftsmanship...it deserves a 8.5-9!

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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review

Written on: 10/02/2005

UPDATE:
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<br>The NightHawk is powerful enough for pest control at close range! To give you an idea of its power, I will compare it to my other pistols I use to shoot Norway rats (or Brown rats).
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<br>I have been shooting rats with the supposedly higher powered 600fps Crosman "American Classic Pump Pistol" (with custom zebra wood grips) with BSA red-dot site. I have only killed one rat (length 5-1/2") after placing a close range (approx 7ft) head shot. I have shot several (I repeat, several) rats of larger size only to watch them run away seemingly uninjured.
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<br>It is possible I have a weak powered Crosman pistol because my Crosman Pumpmaster rifle (also 600fps) has taken these same pests from 22ft and with one, sometimes two, shots.
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<br>With that said: I tried my NightHawk for the first time against the pests last night. My first encounter was with a 10" (body length) Norway rat! It was huge! It was about 4 yards (12ft) away and I took the pest down with the first shot and immobilized it with a quick second and put it out of misery with the third and final shot. I would not have been able to do this with the Crossman American Classic.
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<br>I was not sure where the first shot hit, it was probably a shoulder shot, otherwise I might have immobilized the pest with a single shot.
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<br>I also shot a 4" (body length) Norway rat from about 20ft. The pellet passed through the pest and it died quickly with a well placed head shot. The Walther was accurate enough to make a head shot in a dimly lit shadows (at 20ft) with 2 layers of red cellophane over the flashlight. I could barely see the pest when I took the shot!
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<br>I would recommend this pistol for close range pest control. I will keep you updated if I have success at distances further than 9 yrds.

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Hotsky's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review

Written on: 12/02/2005

I have to disagree with what you said;
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<br>Shooting 10” rats with a 360fps .177 gun is not a good idea! Nighthawk is a 2 ft-lb gun; Not enough power for pest control. Small mice up to 5m, maybe.
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<br>Nighthawk is based on CP Sport which is a cheaper version of CP99, and is probably one of the worst guns for what you intend to do.
<br>For rats (if you want a handgun) get a Crosman 2240 which is a 460fps in a .22 caliber.

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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review

Written on: 14/02/2005

Thanks for your comment Hotsky! However, please note that my comment is not theory, its actual practice. My CP99 has taken down 10" rats at close range as well as smaller ones at 20ft. Please note I emphasized this gun works for "well placed CLOSE RANGE shots".
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<br>Like I said, I HAVE been using a crosman "American Classic" that shoots .177 at 600fps and it has been working terribly. First, you must pump each time you use it (that scares the pests), and that means you need to place a head shot everytime or it will run away and die a slow death somewhere. Second, air escapes from the seals if you dont shoot fairly soon after you pump it (at least on mine and its not "leaking").
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<br>If you are in your own house and have rats and can get some close range shots. This guy works fine. Its accurate and you can place head shots reliably with the reddot scope and I believe the compensator makes it more accurate. Also note that another fellow shot two tree squirrels with it so far!
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<br>I would not reccomend this gun in theory. But in practice it works just fine. Those are just the facts.
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<br>As I said in my post, if you want to hunt, get a rifle! For close range pest control, many handguns work fine. The new Daisy Powerline 617 shoots at 485fps. But the aiming is awful and I haven't been able to notice a considerable difference between that and the walther at close range.
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<br>Regarding the Crosman 2240, do some research on the pistol. Even with CO2 eliminating the pumping hinderance, you are only limited to shooting one shot before having to reload. That alone makes the Walther a better choice still, at close range because you can make 8 quick shots. At best the Crosmans is only shooting at 430fps. Essentially there is little difference between this and the Walther, because they both should not be used for hunting, but they both can take down rats. I have done so with mine!
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<br>Have a blast shooting rats with your 2240, because I am having tons of fun shooting them with my NightHawk!

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Hotsky's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review

Written on: 15/02/2005

Is it CP99 or Nighthawk? Nighthawk is a CP Sport with accessories.
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<br>You're right, because of pumping, the 1377 ("American Classic") is not a good gun for pest control.
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<br>If I know one thing about hunting or pest control; that is, that you should only need ONE shot to take out the target, or at least immobilize it. If you shoot it and it still runs away - that’s the first sign that the gun doesn’t have enough power, and if you rely mainly on capacity, than again you picked the wrong gun. Sure 8 shots might do it. In fact, in practice even a PPK might do it; if you shoot a rat 15 times it will probably die, but that’s just not right!
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<br>Regarding the 2240, yes the velocity will be about 430fps with 14-15gr pellets, which gives you around 6 ft-lb of energy. With Nighthawk you only get 2 ft-lb. And you say there was no difference?! Sure it’s a single shot, but that’s going to be enough to kill a rat.

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Hawaiiratkiller's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review

Written on: 18/02/2005

Thanks for the good feedback Hotsky! Excuse me, I can’t believe I typed CP99??? I meant to say CPSport (or NightHawk). Although, there shouldn’t be a difference in power between the CP99 and the CPSport!
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<br>I agree, and disagree! First, even with "hunting rifles" you must sometimes have to take (2) or even (3) shots to kill game (especially with air rifles). So in that sense, I disagree that if you can't kill something with one shot, it's the wrong gun.
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<br>But I agree that you should be able to kill a pest with one shot. And with my NightHawk, I have and it will! I also agree that the power of the guns are different, and in the Crosman it is greater. But if you miss or make a bad shot the gun is no better, if it is then not worse.
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<br>I think we must be honest about pest elimination. Often, we might miss a good shot and therefore it would require at least (2) shots to kill the rat. So, in practice, my Walther NightHawk has successfully eliminated (2) pests with minimal effort. It is also a great gun to be able to make (2) or even (3) quick shots if necessary. Something you cant do with the Crosman. I didn’t have to place 18 shots to kill them.
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<br>Granted, if I had a larger gun I would use it in the correct circumstance. Shooting pests (rats) out of my avocado tree, for instance, I would use my AirForce Talon SS .22!
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<br>But for the circumstance where I am shooting rats in my kitchen and I am between 12-20ft from my target, my Walther NightHawk is working fine. And I might add, it's a delight to shoot!
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<br>Like I said from the beginning; This gun can work fine for eliminating pests with CLOSE RANGE well placed shots.
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<br>I am enjoying your feedback. I think people could learn from this exchange.

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Cowslober's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review

Written on: 08/10/2005

Tape the holes on the fake silencer with duct tape. The report sounds no louder than setting a cup coffee on the table.

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Hawnindabigo's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review

Written on: 22/02/2006

I just discovered this site as I am interested in my first pellet pistol and just had to respond to the salient, intelligent, and informative review this guy from Hawaii has written. Without waxing on, I am now ready for my purchase. I am stoked to discover that he's from God's country; just like me! I feel I'm thoroughly informed from a specific through general commentary from: "da rat killa from da Ilandz" You rock bro! Hawaii no ka oi!

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Nps4474's Response to hawaiiratkiller's Review

Written on: 02/09/2006

The Nighthawk is a great value for the money considering all the great toys that come included. Can&#039;t say I&#039;m a big fan of the CP99 Sport that the gun is based from though. If you like tactical guns, heres an idea. Order the Umarex Magnum Research Desert Eagly pellet repeater. I just got one. VERY powerful (500 fps) and accurate (with in 25 feet) for a CO2 gun. Spend another $100 and pick up the Walther flashlight and Top Point II sight. This rig will be certain to give you solid kills on small rodents and pests. You can blast 3 rounds in less then 3 seconds very accurately (all fired with the smooth single action) I would assume three pellets at 450-500 fps would be more then enough to do in a rat within 15-20 feet even when aimed at the body. This first burst could of course be followed by another 3-5 shot burst, thus exhausting the mag. and certainly your pest. I'm going to get my Desert bird dressed up as soon as I save up a few bucks for the sight and flashlight.

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