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★★★★★

“My new Webley Xocet XS Air Rifle. What I think.... ”

Written on: 27/07/2005 by Jeffsarn (1 review written)

Good Points
Weight
Power
Build Quality
British
Simplicity

Bad Points
No Saftey
Trigger (see below)

General Comments
My new Webley Xocet XS Air Rifle. What I think....



First of all it is fair to give you an understanding of my own level of competence / experience with air rifles also my better than average understanding of mechanics and physics, for I do not profess to be an expert on Air Guns or for that matter, shooting.



I have owned several Air guns on and off over the years, including amongst others, (used) BSA Airsporter, BSA Meteor, HW77, Webley Vulcan, and a few others I cant remember. (New) BSA Supersport deluxe and my latest acquisition a Webley Xocet XS.



The Webley Xocet is the only gun I currently own. I consider my self a reasonable shot, I think this is partly due to my understanding of Mechanics and Physics (but im no professor, just spell check this and you'll see!) I am qualified to an advanced degree in Automotive Mechanics, I am currently a Ministry of Transport approved vehicle tester to classes 3, 5 & 7. (I find that modern vehicles are far more complex beasts than any Air Rifle I have yet to encounter!)

So, lets get to the point!



After a number of years away from the enjoyment of using an Air Rifle (kids, wife, mortgage etc...) My interest was rekindled with a colleage and friend, again he has some experience in shooting and has been away from the "sport for some time. We were both looking for new Air Rifles! We trawled the Internet for reviews (found this site), bought magazines, after visiting every shop in our vicinity (Essex) and draining all the very helpful people, we purchased two Webley Xocet XS.



Now because we pestered every one and found every one to be as helpful as everyone else I'm not going to mention any names but it is fair to say that every shop we went in we were faced with good sound, reliable, honest advice our ultimate decision to purchase was only due to the shop having what we wanted at the time we wanted to buy it.



Now, this is what I think about the Webley Xocet XS:



This gun is built well, don't get me wrong, I have seen better but this gun is by no means expensive. I've had it in bits (not difficult at all) this is what I think about it's insides, its mass produced but the quality of the metal, the quality of the fittings, the way it has been assembled is without fault, (remember, i've had two to inspect).



From a design point of view I would have liked to have seen a seam weld to fasten the trigger housing to the cylinder (in place of the six spots of mig weld, an extra ounce or so), I would have liked to have seen some kind of shim / shaped washer to eliminate lateral movement of the trigger as I find this to be excessive and a direct result of perhaps a compromise in the design vs cost war.



The gate bolt is firmly secured by a keenly designed time served method, the gate bolt has a number of cut-outs around its radius, another screw goes alongside the main bolt on both sides of the gate, it's head fits in to those cut-outs, therefore the gat bolt cannot shake loose in any way. Any side-to-side movement can only be due to wear in the gate or the breach sides (on this gun its adjustable and so there fore future proof!).



I found the internal workings of the gun to be of a familiar design, there are no surprises here! (Please be careful if you are inexperienced in dismantling a spring powered Air Rifle, you should always use the correct equipment {spring compressor, goggles etc .} if you have any doubts please seek the help of your local experts).



The cocking lever is again of a time served design, a cotter pin holds the fore end onto a pivot below and attached to the barrel. At the aft end there is a sliding pivot that works against the spring guide when cocking the gun. Both the cocking lever and its pivots at both ends are well up to the job, although through experience of the cotter pin arrangement at the fore end of the leaver I would say it would be well advised to use a high melting point grease, pressed into this joint at regular intervals, The cotter pin and the metal of the leaver are both of a good quality, however one will be harder than the other and will result in wear (albeit in the very long term) on one or the other. (I would to compare this joint with a British Leyland Mini, gear selector rod / gearbox joint there is often wear here even though it is well lubricated due to oil leaks!)



The integral silencer is just a hollow "canister" well secured on to the end of the barrel, how effective it is, I cannot comment on, but to say this gun seems quieter than any I have owned to date. Its construction is, as seems to be the rule here, solid. The end of the silencer screws off to reveal the void within.



It all bolted back together again easy enough



On to the delight of using this gun:



The very nice shop and man that ultimately had the privilege of taking our money for these guns and incidentally sold them to us under their advertised price and threw a good wad of Bisley targets in to boot (after some very hard negotiations!!!!) As we were waiting to have the guns prepared, the nice man fitted the scopes (AGS 3 - 9 X 40's for us and more than happy to weigh my pockets down with Allen key's) we saw some leaflets for "Pete's Air Gun Farm" What a nice bloke, we gave him a call and were Zeroing our spanking new kit inside of 45 min from the shop. His place is great, but I'll get to that later. The nice man in the shop advised us that on testing he found that Air Arms Domed Pellets were showing best on the crono at about 11.5Lb and included 1000 of them in the deal.



So as I said within 45 mins I'm sitting in front of a virgin Bisley target at 28m (Pete's indoor rage is 50m max and well marked out) Mark (mi mate) is Zeroing in on about 35m ditto a fresh Bisley target. Mark fires the first shot, PUFFFFFF Was that a tractor? Noooooo, it was like a good old-fashioned pea super, by the time we had zeroed in (Mark 20 shots: Me 50, my scope was a mile off, Mark was just lucky, HONEST). You could hardly see your hand in front of your face.



Breaking the barrel is a bit of a task to begin with, the carbine length does not aid ease of cocking this gun, also you must remember the hollow design of the silencer, its not a good idea to bash it right on the end of the silencer to break the barrel. "aim"low, at the joint between silencer and barrel. I could easily imagine that over time the silencer may become out of alignment due to this action resulting in the pellet fouling the silencer on exit, this would obviously have a detrimental effect on accuracy, this gun does free up over time, especially after a good clean and oil after 1,000 or so. Cocking becomes easier over time, mine began squeaking after about 750 shots, the culprit? That joint I mentioned earlier, the lever to barrel joint!



Anyway when the smoke cleared and we settled down within another 45 mins (including moving sights about etc) we were both knocking down that rat, about 5 foot up in the middle of the hay! It's a knock down with a kill zone about the size of a two pence p. its 45m from the benches! I had 2.5-inch groups at 45m, the AGS milidot scope was a pleasure to use, and I had no discernable scope creep over the 1,250 or so shots fired and that this review is based on.



The trigger is a bit of a disappointment for me, as I said I find the lateral movement to be an unnecessary compromise (although this is not too pronounced with the gun ready to fire, although it may result in slightly differing trigger positions from one shot to another (especially in the field), with that aside it is of a true "two stage" design and the first stage is fully and completely adjustable from a good long effortless stroke of your index finger down to absolutely nothing (not exactly rocket science) But I find the second stage far too long and seems to have two further "stopping points" before finally "letting go". I think that the "interface" between human and machine should be paramount in the feel of any gun and it is due only to the "steppy" as opposed to smooth operation of the second stage that I am disappointed with the trigger.



Power, oh yes this gun is bang on the mark, it may be because the only other gun I have to compare it to is the BSA Supersport Deluxe, I last used that some 10? Years ago, all the other guns I have owned have been "pre loved" some more than others, you get used to how a gun shoots and feels I have had good results and have been able to hold my head up with the crowed and much better, recoilless guns.



The point is I feel more confident and am more consistent with this Webley than all of those that have gone before.



Brief Summary:



British

Solid Construction

Lightweight

Simplistic

Gets better over time

Feels like a different and much better gun after 1000 shots, strip clean and lube (not the piston)

Trigger can be cured with the help of a gunsmith

Cost Effective

Would benefit from a safety But, hey what do you expect for this kind of money!!!!



Question ???????????



What's a Webley Xocet XS like when fitted with a Theoben Gas Ram?