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“I see lots of reviews across the internet and the...”

★★★★☆

written by on 07/05/2011

I see lots of reviews across the internet and the forums criticizing these cars for being 'unreliable' or 'impractical' or the newest favourite referring to 'shoddy build quality' and so on. To a certain extent all of this is true.

These cars aren't likely to pull 300,000 miles with only routine maintenance like a Volvo or VAG machine.

These cars don't offer great running costs, with more than extortionate Tax (£245 a year at the last check), 30-35mpg with fairly economical driving, and Group 14 insurance prices, all of which price these cars out of the younger markets.

And although the boot is more than adequate for a teenage lifestyle, you may find it struggles to accommodate even the smallest of families - which rules out a lot Mums and Dads from ownership.

What it does have in abundance though is smiles per miles factor. My first Saxo experiences came in the form of a 2001 1.1 'Desire' model, which despite a close-ratio Gearbox and a measly 800kg kerb weight felt rather underpowered due to the 60bhp engine.

Yet I was still enthralled by the fantastically balanced and communicative steering, the lightweight nimble chassis, and the well sorted Citroen suspension. What a prospect then, when a fantastic condition albeit high mileage VTS came up for sale fairly close to me through The Rallye Register.

Upon sorting the glitches that come with the territory of a high-mileage performance French hatch such as this one, along with binning the ridiculously loud and anti-social Powerflow exhaust in favour of a standard item I took off on my first 'real' test drive.

Up to 4k rpm this car has just about enough low-down torque to ooze around the town without feeling the need to sit in a high gear, and at these kind of speeds this car is surprisingly good on fuel, returning an estimated 45mpg over 15 miles of casual town driving. This no doubt owing much to it's 935kg kerb weight.

But where it suddenly comes into it's own is in the upper rev ranges. Similar in characteristic to the Honda VTEC engines, the engine seems to have almost 2 different profiles (although it actually doesn't run any sort of Variable Valve timing). It starts to get more urgent from around 4500rpm, then gives almost a kick in the back as gets in and around peak torque at 5200rpm and gets progressively more hasty all the way to the peak power output at 6600rpm. The car will go on to a final rev limit of 7250rpm, however with the power trailing off, I'm not sure how beneficial it is to push the extra 650rpm, especially with the majority of these cars having covered a fair few miles now.

However straight-line performance is not the only card this card can play either. A surprisingly supple ride in standard form, the car begs to be thrown into apexes, and with a little wag of the tail as you lift off upon entry it is a real hoot to drive on almost any British B-Road.

With fairly good equipment levels (Electric Door Mirrors, 15" Alloys, ABS Brakes, Factory Alarm and Immobilizer, Sunroof and a plush and fairly well soundproofed if rather dated interior). The only thing worth noting is the standard soundsystem isn't particularly great, with many owners option to fit upgraded speakers and headunits to make those longer journeys more enjoyable.

One of the points this car is particularly poor is on safety in the event of a collision. It scored a 2* on the Euro N-Cap ratings in 1996, and although the VTS has a passenger airbag, even the late 2003 models still retain a 2* rating, considered very poor and well below average.

The brakes, which are also shared with it's smaller VTR brother are effective but not jaw-dropping. 247mm discs Front and Rear produce effective stopping power, while the ABS system is of older design and could be considered 'inconsistent'.

One of the main selling points of this car is the stupendous amount of upgrades, tuning and modification options available. In addition these cars are commonplace in Scrapyards and Breakers, with new parts being reasonably priced in most cases too, even from the main dealers. The car shares the majority of it's platform with the other Saxo models, and the Peugeot version; the 106, which greatly increases the likelihood of finding cheap replacement parts should anything go awry.

Key areas to look for when buying are a comprehensive service history indicating the Cambelt has been changed, along with regular oil, coolant and filter changes along with other routine maintenance. This is especially important if you have reason to believe the car has been driven hard. The Rear-Beams/Axles are notorious for failure around the 70k mark with the stub-pins wearing prematurely - budget around £400 for a replacement. Gearboxes can show wear if the car has had a hard life as can the clutch, the rest of the engineering is of a fairly good standard and shouldn't cause too much trouble. This car is a prime example of a car that needs looking after though, and by and large will give you lots of trouble free motoring if it's well maintained.

There are a few electric issues kicking around especially with the 3-Plug (2001-2004) models, however to call these common would be an exaggeration - just be aware that they can crop up, and should be dealt with swiftly and effectively with a diagnostics machine.

One of the other main benefits to ownership of these cars is the ease of ability to work on them. Unlike German and Japanese counter-parts these cars are simple and intuitive for most maintenance and repair jobs, which should you feel brave and have a decent toolkit to hand could be attempted at home, thereby saving on Garage bills. There is also a big following for them on the internet with many Saxo and 106 owners clubs, with excellent 'how-to' guides and offering invaluable information and advice should faults need to be diagnosed on your car.

Overall this is a car I would recommend to anyone to go out and drive. Whether it's a suitable car as an ownership proposition will depend by and large upon your personal circumstances. Should you feel the want to invest, find yourself a good, cared for example and reap the rewards of an entertaining, brilliant value car for little more than pocket money.

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“I have got a saxo vts on a 99 plate and its now done...”

★★★★★

written by on 29/06/2009

I have got a saxo vts on a 99 plate and its now done 78000. Ive had no problems with my car and actually in th e process in buying a new car but not managed to find one that live up to the expectations of the saxo. Great fun car to drive and very quick for a small car! Does beats many people from the lights. The only problem i had it when i first brought it, the radiater went but since then everything is good. Would reccomment these to anyone who looking for fun quick car!

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“A saxo 16v is a good car (if you're lucky) with a high...”

★★★★★

written by on 20/12/2008

A saxo 16v is a good car (if you're lucky) with a high revving engine wich likes to revv al the way. Very fast
reasonable consumption
cheap buy
Good standard noise Some parts are way to expensive
pretty noisy from bodyparts tokking inside the car

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“Fast ride really go like mad after 60mph it shocking...”

★★★★★

written by bluesaxovtsjames on 04/10/2008

Fast ride really go like mad after 60mph it shocking for a little car easy to drive and good for long trips. Part abt same price as ford not expensive like Peugeot or Renault good equipment like heated mirrors. Electric mirrors window anti-lock breaks airbags. Recommend it. Had no probs with mind except airbag light and eng management just needed clearing. 35quid main dealer. Rec mend after suspension kit might be a bit softer. Seat lovely on 2001 y reg.

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“I've owned both a new shape Citroen Saxo VTS and my...”

★★★★★

written by bmw e30 on 31/08/2008

I've owned both a new shape Citroen Saxo VTS and my current VTS and I can definetely say the VTS is in a different league, as someone mentioned the VTR is a warm hatch that is 'nippy' whereas the VTS is the flyer. The gearboxes are the definite weak point, my 75,000 one will crunch 2-3 and now 3-4 if you change gear quick-ish. It gets a lot of stick though so I can't really knock it, the engines are just so sweet, they are rev happy engines right up to 7000 and just 'hum' along around 4000revs, giving impressive acceleration even at motorway cruising speed as its sitting on peak torque at that speed so any acceleration is brisk. Light weight helps too as its only a 1.6. You cannot fail to be impressed, I really don't know if mine's standard as its kept with a sierra cosworth, (though cosworths are heavy the power to weight between the two isn't that much difference, though after that he would probably pull away as he just has more power), and lately a Nissan 300zx auto, again a heavy car but with 286bhp it should have left me, and his car was gleaming red so a nice example - I saw the moment he used the kickdown (as its automatic) cos it lunged like he stamped on the accelerator!
Its been ultra reliable, returning an average 38mpg for alot of town driving, and the usual heavy foot action combined, I can't fault it, doesn't use a drop of oil or water over 10,000miles so far. Handling is typical torsion bar feeling, a real chuck around and predictable oversteer, but I bought mine with lots of tread on the tyres but in the wet it is very slippery. I'm hesitant to replace 4 tyres as they have alot of tread but I wish they gripped better in the wet. I've had no water leaks apart from in one of the rear lights which has partially corroded the lighting board circuit, so a piece of insulated wire soldered from a good point, bypassing the corrosion and soldering again to make a good circuit has stopped any more odd brake light bulb happenings. Temporary bodge but even though it'll be fine I will eventually replace the lighting circuit board.
The heater works very well and quickly, the seats are comfy and a nice dark patterned colour, and also the windows are nicely tinted as standard so glancing in the car gives the impression of darkened windows as dark interior and tinted windows combined has that effect.
I've had many cars, done a review on a few if you want to check out some others, but this car I'm sticking with for a long while, even knowing it'll need a new gearbox when the clutch is due in the next 10,000 or so miles. I don't get hassled by boy racers as mines totally standard, even ride height, and its nice having a standard car when alot of previous cars have been modified.
I must add also that the alarm when it rained caused a few problems in that it kept going off! Standard alarm, if I turned off the interior sensors it solved the problem, strange seeing as the control box is inside the car under the dash, apparently the sensors are hyper sensitive and with no adjustment many owners simply disconnect them, very basically you just unplug them from the control box and hey presto, no more false alarms in the wet! Simple things like windows winding up quickly (electric) and nicely weighted steering, light-ish clutch pedal and ABS brakes add to a nice overall feel when driving the car, mines a Diablo Red which is a colour I've loved and now I finally have one I don't give it a second thought anymore!
I've added genuine Citroen roofbars to mine as I go mountain biking and use cycle carriers on them, the fit is good although it takes a bit of fettling and tweaking brackets so they don't rub when you shut the doors, I've amped up a 12inch sub in the boot and being a 4 channel amp it runs the fronts too (alpines) so boot space is a little limited but being a box shape boot with little intrusion from suspension struts either side it leaves an ok space for shopping and bags etc.
I've serviced mine a few weeks ago, oil, filter, fuel filter, spark plugs and new clutch cable (preventative measure!). All fitting except the clutch cable was straight forward for a DIY-er (I changed a clutch on my old 106 1.1-my parents now own it, and I've also done the cambelt and headgasket replacement on the 106 too as well as a reno 19 16v and clio 16v head gaskets over the years so I can do most jobs myself). Hmm, the clutch cable runs along the bulkhead and up under the steering rams into the car and joining up to the clutch pedal. Access down by the pedals is seriously awkward, as is trying to route the cable under the steering rams, a nightmare! I tried and finally succeeded by running a wire from inside the car through into the engine bay, attacing to a heavier cable, pulling back through into the car, and attaching the other end to the clutch cable and drawing them both through until the clutch cable was in place!
Fiddly is the word!
But anyway to sum up, i'd recommend one of these to anyone, as long as the size and interior space suits your needs, you can't go far wrong, insurance isn't much more than a VTR even though the books say it is- VTS comes standard with a CAT1 alarm for a start compared to just an immobiliser on the VTR.
performance=9/10
driving =8/10
mpg =8/10 38mpg combined
reliability =9/10
looks =8/10
security =8/10
fun =9/10
parts prices =7/10 Genuine Citroen ones
" " =10/10 Non-Genuine ones
Electrics =9/10 power windows,mirrors,reliability etc
overall =9/10

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Vfrtorque's Response to bmw e30's Review

Written on: 24/02/2010

Not honest just another vts fanboy who been made a fool of by citroen for believing there is a difference for the 7 groups higher than the vtr. I had both and vts is shocking for a car that is 7 groups higher. You only notice real difference after 100mph. I had a 100bbhp vtr and is just as fast , if not faster around town. Deffo got more torque than the vts.

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“Easy to play with. I use mine for trackdays so it's...”

★★★★☆

written by aem82 on 18/07/2008

Easy to play with. I use mine for trackdays so it's lowered, yellow stuff brake pads, free flow exhaust and a air filter with heat shield (be wary of the filters aimed ant the 'chav' culture in modifying, all they do is suck hot air into the engine).
Also has a Unichip fitted to recalibrate the engine to the modifications.
Still not the quickest car out there but with sorted brakes and handling in a light weight chassis it can out perform a lot of things on road and on track with a decent driver.
Just a shame the boy racers have spoilt it.

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“I only had it couple weeks payed 2495 fsh 2 owners y...”

★★★★★

written by on 28/04/2008

I only had it couple weeks payed 2495 fsh 2 owners y reg. Def worth every penny. Easy to park n the drive exllent. Dont knock a Citroen. 100percent better than my old astra, I feel my age 22 that 46 driving my old 1.6 8v astra that got no kick.

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“I was lucky enough to purchase a 30,000 mile one owner...”

★★★★☆

written by 00Pibo on 18/02/2008

I was lucky enough to purchase a 30,000 mile one owner Citroen Saxo VTS - in silver for £3800, its been quality to drive and I am guessing I will only know how good I had it when I purchase a 'family car'! Top handling, no mechanical problems, some electronic stuff like the alarm sensors not working properly from the off, airbag warning lights have come on the dash board after about 60,000 miles. But I can forgive that because its a driving car. Its got 73,000 on the clock and still going strong after 2.5 years ownership. Mines is a Y reg and I reckon after 1.5 more years (4 years total) will be part exchanged on something newer but it should manage the next 1.5 years with no mechanical probs as I have serviced it yearly. Always gone straight through MOTs (brake pads needed changing though =) Its a fun car but not a for a family or for a refined misses. The ride has my girlfriend moaning a bit on long journeys and when I throw it round a corner. However by myself its a blast. Finally it brings a smile to my face when I eat up a BMW on the way home.....the look on the face of the owner is like "that's just a saxo and its got better performance than mine!".

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“My Citroen Saxo is very quick 0-60 in 3.0 sec, I have...”

★★★★★

written by on 26/01/2008

My Citroen Saxo is very quick 0-60 in 3.0 sec, I have done many upgrades to achieve this. Max speed now I estimate at 165mph, but I am too scared to push it. My mate loves his VTR more than I love my VTS but thats life!

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453945_Dasiasss's Comment

Written on: 13/04/2009

yeah and my dasia sandero does 0-62 in 2.3 seconds and goes on to a top speed of 486.7mph. It also has vertical take off but i havent got my pilots liscence yet. Thats life.

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“How much will I be able to sell mine for.”

★★★☆☆

written by on 22/01/2008

How much will I be able to sell mine for.

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“I have owned a 1997 R plate VTR, and a 1999 T plate...”

★★★★★

written by on 30/12/2007

I have owned a 1997 R plate VTR, and a 1999 T plate VTS, and can say there is a vast difference between them.
First off is the obvious speed difference, I wouldnt call the VTR 'slow' but the VTS makes the most of the extra 8 valves. The VTR is 'nippy' and is along the same lines as a Corsa B GSI. The VTS, is a quick little car, my engine was un-modified.
The 97 VTR didnt really give me alot of trouble within the engine, it was the build quality that let it down, my drivers side door literally fell off, not good. However the 99 VTS gave me no trouble at all, it was an absolute joy, i would definately buy another, and would highly recommend.

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“I would recommend this car to anybody between 18-25!...”

★★★★★

written by wiggo89 on 28/08/2007

I would recommend this car to anybody between 18-25! It is such a fun car to drive. The handling is excellent no matter what speed your doing round pretty much any corner! It beats a fair chunk of cars off the lights, most models up to a 1.6/1.8 depending on the year. As I said before you can pout little things on VTR's to make them look good. for example in mine I have put an induction kit on it to give it a bit of a roar, I've lowered it 40mm all round, tinted the windows, put a minor bodykit on front and back, changed the grill at the front to a silver meshing and changed all the bulbs/lights to bright LEDs! Doing little mods like that on the Saxo VTR makes it look very nice and not common at all!
I wouldn't recommend this car to anybody over 6'4" or anybody over 25 years of age as it's more of a fun car for the younger person!
Saxo's are no longer available to buy in the market as new anymore so I would go out soon and get yourself a VTR or if you want to spend a little more money get a VTS and see the fun you can have in the car!

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00Pibo's Response to 307492_wiggo89's Review

Written on: 18/02/2008

Any body kit mods is a kids game and skins cash out the wallet. Keep the original and keep it well maintained.

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Saxovtspower's Response to 307492_wiggo89's Review

Written on: 11/01/2010

you cant get any saxo thats a 1.8 as standard, they only go upto 1.6s the vtr's are 1.6 8v and the vts is a 1.6 16v which is the top ov the range model. i have the vts and i total love it. the acceleration is ttl class and its so fun to drive. i drive along with smile plastered on ma face constantly lol

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“Have got a few cars in my household and the Citroen...”

★★★★☆

written by jazzRS360 on 11/08/2007

Have got a few cars in my household and the Citroen Saxo VTS is now one of them, in place of my boy's VTR. Group 14 insurance initially seems stupid, build quality is below par and there is no glovebox oddly enough. Economy is not all that great either for a small car, at just 34mpg, and its pricey to tax too.

If you can live with those shortcomings, you will have yourself a small hot-hatch hero. It's just so much fun to drive, with it's old school charm. No electronic gizmos ruining things, just you, the car and the road. Its got a reasonable 120 bhp and revs to about 7200rpm, but its the way it behaves on road that makes it worth while. Oversteer? Understeer? You can do what you want in this car, its beautifully balanced, except for the front nose which gets a little light and twitchy when you launch it from a standstill. Its not perfect to drive, but its just so laughable, correcting its backend on hairpins and giving that little engine a good sound thrashing. 0-60mph comes up in 7.7 seconds, simply astonishing for a n/a 1.6 engine with it's modest power output. My Octavia vRS has 180bhp and 173 lb ft against the Saxo's 120bhp and 107lb ft, and the Octy has similar acceleration off the mark, and only really pulls away at 70 plus (all tested on an autobahn, of course!).

So its pedals are offset and its gearbox is hopelessly floppy, and the brakes seem just mediocre for such a sporting car. But for that, you get a brilliant engine, a sound chassis and, in my opinion, smart French-flair looks. It's certainly not the best quality budget hot-hatch about, the old Golf GTi and Civic VTi will see to that, but with it's 106 GTi shared chassis, it could just be the most fun.

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176891_Bombom101's Response to jazzRS360's Review

Written on: 13/08/2007

Sorry, But I own a Saxo myself, only a 1.1, But all Saxos have glove boxes?
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<br/>A floppy gearbox as well? You must have a got a ragged one then! The selector in mine feels fine indeed.

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472928_Macvts's Response to jazzRS360's Review

Written on: 12/07/2009

thats right, mine dont have a glove box either its becos of the airbag. its worn rubbers on the linkages that cause gear change to be floppy, i know because 2 of mine perished and left me at the roadside with no gears. since replacing them gear changes are tighter.

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Jazzrs360's Response to jazzRS360's Review

Written on: 15/08/2007

Oh and by the way, thats correct NO glove box in the VTS model, it has passenger airbag instead unlike the others.

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Jazzrs360's Response to jazzRS360's Review

Written on: 15/08/2007

I doubt it, the car is a one owner from new with just 36000 miles. This summer I have also driven 2 Saxo VTRs, one of which was in almost new condition, and both had floppy-feeling boxes. I'm guessing its just a Saxo trait, Top Gear magazine made a similar comment on the VTR a few years back. If you think your box is great, go and test drive a Ford Fiesta Zetec-S, and then tell me what you think. Yes I have driven that too, and it's gearbox is decidedly meatier and more precise.
<br/>But for a cheap car, its forgivable. I still think the VTS is a little cracker of a car for all its flaws, and even though the Ford is probably the better driver's car, I'd take the Saxo for sheer fun appeal. And besides, the VTS has the sort of acceleration the Ford can only dream of.

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“I have owned my Saxo VTS for three years and would...”

★★★★★

written by shotley100 on 23/11/2006

I have owned my Saxo VTS for three years and would recommend it to anyone who is considering buying one. I bought mine from a specialist garage and have to admit I was a bit of a sceptic because of the French connection to begin with! (I owned a Renault 19 16v which spent more time in the garage than Clarkson's GT40!) I can honestly say though, I have never looked back and couldn't part with it now!

I drove a VTR before my purchase and have to say that I was left feeling a little underwhelmed. The main reason I stuck with the idea of a Saxo was because of the handling that was evident. The VTS sticks to the road like glue and acceleration through the gears is impressive. My only add-ons have been a full magnex straight through and a K&N filter. I have lowered it, but not too much as I still want to be able to have people in the back. Citroen are very helpful if you want advice on faults or fault finding although I wouldn't advise taking it to them for any sort of work as they are costly! The insurance for me at 25 with 5 years no claims and 6 points is £250 fully comp, although hearing from younger friends with VTR's this can be quite a lot more if you're a younger age. If you buy one and leave it any length of time and find when you use it again the abs light stays on then this is a problem with one of the 4 sensors (I have got through 3 of them at £75 a pop!) also the Saxo is known for its poor fuelling from time to time due to the lazy lambda sensors. Otherwise I can't fault them, servicing is cheap and the engine, although small... is easy to work on.

I have recently bought an R32 golf but couldn't bring myself to part with the French rocket...so my girlfriend now drives it and she loves it to.

In closing, buy one with fsh, low mileage and make sure the electrics are all good. Mainly though... get the VTS AND NOT THE VTR! Happy trails

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Bmw E30's Response to shotley100's Review

Written on: 11/03/2008

I found this review helpful because... i agree with everything he said, its good advice. I too owned a reno 19 16v phase 1 and although in my opinion it was the best car i ever had it is long in the tooth now, and after sampling fords-focus's and pumas etc i think my heart lies with french cars, and my saxo vts gets a thumbs up! Its impressive performance and cheap bills, and will give you more fun per mile than almost any other car.

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“I have had this Citroen Saxo VTS car nearly 2 months...”

★★★★★

written by Michaela18 on 02/11/2006

I have had this Citroen Saxo VTS car nearly 2 months now and I love it. I'm usually quite bad with cars, I get bored but I can't see me getting bored of this. The speed of this car is just amazing and how quick it picks up, well I'm just chuffed to bits with it!

Not only does it go fast and stick to the road, it also looks good. It's a head turner! I would recommend this car to anyone as I have found mine so reliable.

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“I beg you. Don't buy a Citroen Saxo VTS. Get a CRX SiR...”

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written by Dr Gonzo on 21/10/2006

I beg you. Don't buy a Citroen Saxo VTS. Get a CRX SiR instead and save your dignity and respect. Plus girls like it a lot more than a tarted up, French shopping trolley with a chassis set up by neanderthals with a bias towards under steer. Verdict: Smells of garlic and lots of visits to the dealer. Steer clear. Unless you have one, in which case you'll be steering into a tree.

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281979_Jpppartridge's Response to Dr Gonzo's Review

Written on: 15/03/2007

Dr Gonzo, as a proud VTS owner I feel inclined to stick up for this cracking little car - we wouldn't want people getting the wrong idea about it!
<br/> Comparing the VTS and the Civic/CRX Vtec was very thoughtful, though obviously Japan beats France in terms of straight line speed, engine noise, interior and build quality. If however, you want a car with less than 40,000 miles on the clock for around £2000 you can forget the Japanese offerings (bar the ghastly 2 seater version, though these aren't hatchbacks anyway), including the later, more lame looking 160bhp Civics. In short, on the used car market you get more choice, and arguably better value, for your money from the Saxo VTS.
<br/> How is the VTS ugly? Look up CRX in the dictionary and I'm sure you won't find the words "good looking" anywhere nearby! The Toyota Prius is ugly! And how can you say the VTS doesn't handle?
Also, I can't help but feel you are suffering from a nasty case of Franco-phobia! French hatches really can be good - they don't have loads of power but they make the most of what they've got. I'm thinking here of the 205 GTI, the Clio Williams - while the VTS cannot claim status alongside these legends it does share many of their best attributes i.e. fun factor.
<br/> I cannot argue with your observation regarding driving position; it isn't the greatest! But it really isn't that bad either, unless you're driving loads of miles in a single stint or hurtling round a track for prolonged periods of time. I must admit I don't find the pedals a problem, be it in trainers or work boots - any pedals take time to get accustomed to.
<br/> To summarize, I have tried to give a fair low down on the Saxo VTS so as to help or inform any potential buyers. The VTS doesn't pretend to be something it isn't; the interior is poor, comfort is fairly lacking, just about the whole car is made of plastic - but this last point is part of the appeal! For a 1600cc the car really does go and it stops well too. The handling is akin to the 205 GTI, but minus the unforgiving lift-off oversteer. Understeer is no more of a problem than in any other FWD car. For under £2000 there are plenty of tidy examples - you are getting a cracking motor for your money.
<br/>(N.B No disrespect: the CRX/Civic Vtec is an awesome machine - given a slightly bigger budget my choice between one of these and a Clio Williams would have been a tough one!).

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Kfostervts's Response to Dr Gonzo's Review

Written on: 11/06/2009

looks like you need to see some one about this, you have issues with hate for the vts, have you owned one. I have a VTS now its my 5th car ive had 3 corsa sports, 1 golf tdi and a pug 106. all of them werent bad cars but werent the best had problems with them all even with care (warming up, servicing etc). I was a bit wiery of buying a french shopping trolley as you quoted, i just went for a test drive and had to get one because of how it drives. I still was thinking it would be in the garage allot, but the french prooved me wrong it is by far the best car ive ever owned never a problem, quite good on feul, handling is amazing around short quick corners (perfect for tracks), back end kicks out abit around a long sweeping bend but i can live with that. All these cars need is a carefull owner that isnt just going to hammer it every where (only when relevant) all the time and it will be fine.

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“My Citroen Saxo VTS does 0-60 in 3.7 seconds and 60-0...”

★★★★★

written by boyracer1986s on 08/09/2006

My Citroen Saxo VTS does 0-60 in 3.7 seconds and 60-0 in 3.2 seconds, it does 143mph top speed and sticks to the road like glue, even in sharp corners at 100mph. It has to be the ultimate small car, well it would be if the interior was better as standard.

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Zharca's Response to 258808_boyracer1986s's Review

Written on: 25/10/2006

"does 0-60 in 3.7 seconds"
<br/>A very interesting observation, perhaps a misprint for 7.3 seconds?
<br/>Otherwise we're talking over 24ft/sec for which a stripped-out Saxo would need to average about 220kW. You could convert that to about 350bhp peak, and if you can get that from under 200sq cm piston area, you can come and work for me.
<br/>IMPRESSIVE.
<br/>There is a documented 1/4 mile run for a well-modified Saxo VTS at 14.6sec/94mph, from which you'd guess a 0-60 at around the 7 second mark.
<br/>J

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Saxo Vts's Response to 258808_boyracer1986s's Review

Written on: 01/01/2007

I got a Saxo VTS with a sportex full system, dastek unichip and a performance air filter. dyno'd at 153bhp at the fly with 112lb-ft torque at tdi power tuning. My cas runs 0 - 60 between 6.2 n 6.5, and 1/4 mile in 14.8 seconds. It's one of the fastest Saxo's in my area, and still a lot slower than yours! Your figures must be a little bit wrong, or did you rev it up on axle stands? lol

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265969_Leed's Response to 258808_boyracer1986s's Review

Written on: 06/11/2006

Not too sure about the 3+ secs either!!
<br/>As I have a Citroen Saxo VTS and it's chipped - viper ind, scorp exh and Kent cams.
<br/>It's nowhere near that!!
<br/>LOL!!!

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“My Citroen Saxo VTS was a very fast car and it just...”

★★★★★

written by YATES on 25/07/2006

My Citroen Saxo VTS was a very fast car and it just stuck to the road an pulled like a train, was just simply the best hatchback I have ever driven although it was heavy on petrol. I'd still highly recommended and would have another one any day of the week.

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“Ive had my Citroen Saxo VTS 1.6 16v for 6 months now,...”

★★★★☆

written by danno01992 on 06/02/2006

Ive had my Citroen Saxo VTS 1.6 16v for 6 months now, and am overall very pleased with it.

I'll try and give you a run down of my opinions of the different parts of the car, what it's like to drive, and it as a package.

Engine: Brilliant, 1.6 16v, responsive, power stacked (130bhp from the 2000 model upwards) which, in an 898 kilo car, is really quite something!

Brakes: Not confidence inspiring at first, they're pretty wooden, and take some getting used to. Some softer pads would sort this problem, But I prefer the hard pads, they last longer, and once you get used to them, you realise that once you give them a good prod when you really need to stop, the car suddenly wants to stand on its nose! They come into their own, becoming sharp, responsive, and controllable, but only when they're being used hard.

Handling and Suspension:
Bumpy ride, very rattly, but that's the price you pay (and a worthy one if you ask me) for being able to go round corners like the thing was stuck to the road.

Gearbox and clutch: The gearbox by my standards is sweet as a nut, but my last car was a 206 (the gearboxes are horribly clunky on them) and is a great short throw number, which no doubt helps the cars quick 0-60 time.

Looks: It looks great in my opinion, (on the outside) its a shame they couldnt have paid a bit more attention to the interior, its not even sport, apart from a silver gear knob and white dials, and bucket seats, its pretty much like my Saxo 1.1 i had as a first car!

Reliability.
It needed a few switches and things replacing on it, and it feels like a bush is going on the front somewhere at the minute, and it died on me in Kingston, only to find when the AA arrived there was nothing wrong with it! oooook then! but its not done that since.
It has done the occasional running on 2 cylinders, it's done it twice, but only first thing in the morning, and only when it was freezing, new spark plugs would solve that Im told.

One thing you can be fairly confident on, is that when you turn the key it will start in the morning, it's not been so bad that I don't trust it, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't get rid of it, it makes me grin too much when it IS running!

Refinement/practicality.
Let's face it, the Saxo is light, that's why its 130 bhp goes a long way, and it's got performance to make most other cars bow their head in shame, even much bigger ones, and thats the price you pay for little room in the back, a poor interior, and a noisy cabin, I'll admit, on long journeys, at above 60 mph, it does my head in, but you do get used to it eventually, and it's well worth it!

Performance:
130 bhp @6600 rpm,
0-62mph 7.4-7.7 secs
top speed 127mph
Weight 898kg
Combined fuel consumption 35 mpg.

Let's face it, these figures on paper are never going to be sniffed at, and don't be fooled by the Civic type r, 206gti 180, VW Golf turbo gti, all of these are around 6.7 seconds. But a good start off the line has seen me give all of these more than a run for their money, if they do win, it'll only be by a bonnet length.

I have to say though, it's certainly not as exciting as say, a Honda Prelude manual 2.2, VTECH, the 0-60 times are very similair, but the extra thrust makes those cars feel quicker.
No it's not the most reliable thing in the world, there's no space and it's a pain in the backside on motorway journeys.
But that's not what it's built for, and it can at least do these things.
If you buy it for the right reasons, your going to love it, no questions asked.

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“I have a Astra SRi Turbo 52 reg ,with 250 bhp,5 sec...”

★★★☆☆

written by astra turbo on 10/01/2006

I have a Astra SRi Turbo 52 reg ,with 250 bhp,5 sec 0-60 sprint and 162 flat out at Santa Pod!!
I have just bought a Citroen Saxo VTS it's a nice car but that's all it is. In no where near the league as my Astra Turbo, she would destroy Saxos within the first few yards. More comfortable, refined,and handling than the Saxo any day, but it is a different class!!

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244221_Saxo Nut's Response to astra turbo's Review

Written on: 24/05/2006

I think anyone who slates this beauty of a car needs their head testing. Mine is lowered with 16's on it and it has spax suspension. It has a four branch manifold heat wrapped and a nice exhaust that's loud when I put my foot down but quiet when I'm driving slow. This is the best car I have had and I would definitely recommend this car to others. It's a great car for modding if that's what your into but it's also a great car for your mum. A definite thumbs up from me.

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Shotley100's Response to astra turbo's Review

Written on: 23/11/2006

I agree with what you're saying in principal, but then why would you go to a BMW M3 review forum if you drove a Ferrari Scaglietti? Of course your Vauxhall would knock the socks of a Saxo, but then how many Astra's are knocking around in good nick for 1500 notes? Plus, you would need to re-mortgage your house to pay for the insurance on an Astra turbo if you're under 25. Anyway, get an R32 Golf if you want performance....give the VTS to your missus like me!!!!

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